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Post by S_Gokin on Jan 25, 2018 0:41:03 GMT -5
The Playmates Voltron is not a KO. WEP who owns Voltron licenses to both Bandai and Playmates. WEP would have seen the Bandai prototype before the final licensing agreement was signed. WEP most likely liked the design and wanted to make a toy using the design. Since Playmates has the toy license, they would produce the toy. Bandai would get a % of the toy sale for allowing the design to be used. This may be why we are not seeing a Re-Release Of gx-71 at this time as WEP is more focused on the toys and the design will most likely make more money as a toy than as a $300 collectible. Stop saying playmates stole the design or it is a KO. It’s simply not true. man lately i feel like people are listening to reply more than listening to understand you quote my post lol i didn't say they stole it i said it looks like an early prototype for the GX-71
also even if you are not a collector if you see both of the GX-71 and the playmates version next to each other, you will know which one is the KO, there is no way to sugar coat it even if they have a permission or a license, they took Bandai design are you giving your opinion or giving a fact about Bandai getting a % from Playmates ? i honestly couldn't find any official info about that part i wont believe anything coming from WEP, they failed to stop the production of the KOB not ones not twice but 4 times, so how can they protect Bandai from Playmates and the Fantasy Jewel ? |
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Post by S_Gokin on Jan 25, 2018 0:42:10 GMT -5
Interesting. So it won't be till a year or two before we get any reissues. I thought as much as it would take 5 years I am guessing for any reissue to be done. Other than the knuchaku weapon for Voltron,I would so love an effect part version of the Blazing Sword. The one where Voltron clasps its two hands to materialize. I think Bandai kinda missed that opportunity. i dont think they forget that, i think they are saving it for another day lol like an R version or something |
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Post by GetterBoi on Jan 25, 2018 1:14:55 GMT -5
Everything I've seen about the Playmates Classic '84 is "you get what you pay for."
Sloppy paint. Cheap plastic. Lightweight. Only impressive thing is you're getting a 16" Voltron for very cheap, and it looks impressive from afar. Once you start looking at details, or hold it in your hand, the magic is shattered.
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Post by FixedInPost on Jan 25, 2018 10:36:10 GMT -5
Pretty sure there was a similar conversation when Playmates released their Legendary Defender. People still don't seem to understand that this is a toy for small children. It is not on par with the GX-71 or the counterfeit Icarus. Six year old kids don't care about "paint apps" and "anime accuracy". They just want to play, smash the lions together and lose the whole thing under their bed for a week. My kids LOVE the Playmates version. And I'm really glad someone out there is making a fun, durable Voltron toy for kids to play with.
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Post by Super.Ultra.Robo.Rider on Jan 25, 2018 10:54:01 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm psyched on the Playmates Voltron. I have the Icarus Voltron, and an incomplete Playmates Voltron 84, and I'll be waiting for another release of the SoC. In hand, and from extensive study of photos and video of both, the SoC and the Playmates are not identical. They look similar, but they are both trying to recreate the same character, so they should look alike! You're all raving about how the SoC is the most perfect representation
of the character, so the more the Playmates has in common with it, the more it is accurate to the source material. Furthermore Playmates has the master toy license for ALL Voltron toys. Bandai doesn't need protection from Playmates, or vice versa. Icarus is an unlicensed third party Voltron, not a knock off. Playmates is a completely legitimate (legally) TOY, not a knock off. The Fantasy Jewel Red Lion is the only copy cat (pun intended), and therefore, the only knock off of the SoC GX-71.
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Post by KumaStyle.com (TJ) on Jan 25, 2018 11:03:32 GMT -5
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Post by FixedInPost on Jan 25, 2018 11:08:25 GMT -5
Damn, that picture makes me wanna buy another one and I already have 2!
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Post by bocasas on Jan 25, 2018 11:27:52 GMT -5
god... I avoid this thread as much as posible since thanks to a retailer in my country I missed this (even when I payed it upfront). This thing is beautiful. Kuma's photo makes me think it may worth the effort of paying aftermarket price...
Hope theres a reissue soon!
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Post by FixedInPost on Jan 25, 2018 11:34:46 GMT -5
Hey, I encourage you guys that own the GX-71 to have a look at the chrome on your lions legs. I hadn't handled mine in a while and noticed some of the chrome was starting to oxidize a bit (getting cloudy). Was fine after a rub down with a cloth, didn't really have to use polish. Just something to keep an eye on.
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Post by bader on Jan 25, 2018 11:51:29 GMT -5
Nothing lasts forever.
You can always use gloves at least when you handle the diecast or chromed parts.
Use only microfiber cloth to clean your collection time to time.
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Post by S_Gokin on Jan 25, 2018 14:00:40 GMT -5
come on TJ you are teasing the guys  good one bro god... I avoid this thread as much as posible since thanks to a retailer in my country I missed this (even when I payed it upfront). This thing is beautiful. Kuma's photo makes me think it may worth the effort of paying aftermarket price... Hope theres a reissue soon! i recommend that you wait for a reissue, Bandai will not ignore the strong demand for the figure |
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Post by xephon0930 on Feb 10, 2018 14:50:46 GMT -5
 So I finally got my Red Lion in the mail by TF-Direct.  It is a nice piece to ween me till I eventually get to buying the SoC either when I see a decent price or when the SoC Voltron gets reissued. Other than paint not being as top notch,the paws of the Red Lion has no ball joints so they cannot pivot along the ground like the official release does. It can also detach the head for the Golion Attack. |
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Post by thegame23 on Feb 11, 2018 23:39:15 GMT -5
So I finally got my Red Lion in the mail by TF-Direct. It is a nice piece to ween me till I eventually get to buying the SoC either when I see a decent price or when the SoC Voltron gets reissued. Other than paint not being as top notch,the paws of the Red Lion has no ball joints so they cannot pivot along the ground like the official release does. It can also detach the head for the Golion Attack. how many days it took the delivery from TF-Direct? and the lion does it feel heavy? I mean diecast feel. |
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Post by xephon0930 on Feb 12, 2018 11:41:19 GMT -5
So I finally got my Red Lion in the mail by TF-Direct. It is a nice piece to ween me till I eventually get to buying the SoC either when I see a decent price or when the SoC Voltron gets reissued. Other than paint not being as top notch,the paws of the Red Lion has no ball joints so they cannot pivot along the ground like the official release does. It can also detach the head for the Golion Attack. how many days it took the delivery from TF-Direct? and the lion does it feel heavy? I mean diecast feel. I think it took about a week or less for me to get mine. There is some diecast but since I don't have the official release,I cannot tell you if it is lighter than the official release. |
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Post by batsugun21 on Feb 13, 2018 15:12:28 GMT -5
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Post by Ultrazilla Toys on Feb 17, 2018 1:59:16 GMT -5
Courtesy of TF-Direct, here's my compressive review (and comp to GX-71) of the Fantasy Jewel Red Lion. Enjoy, folks! Worthwhile get if you missed GX-71!
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Post by crpdiablos on Feb 20, 2018 22:50:45 GMT -5
I noticed something today which goes in line with my thinking. I had bought a couple figurines I don't know what they are called anime female with swords and tops that pop off and the stand although pink was identical to the blue plastic connector stands that come with the fantasy jewel lion. The only difference is they are pink and have the words Bandai on them. I've been thinking that Bandai has been secretly behind the lionbots and now the fantasy jewel, I'm most convinced. Why hasn't lionbot been sued or shut down. It's as if they have a free pass but mad toys which is it's own design has had all sorts of licensing issues. Now this fantasy jewel comes out with a near perfect clone of the six golion and not a problem at all with Bandai or wep. Seems to me this Is how Bandai is getting their toy to market when maybe they legally can't do it themselves. Does Bandai have a specific facility for making these toys or did weng jai manufacture the golions. Are they tye same copmpany that does the lionbot. It just seems to soon and too good for it not to be closely related
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Post by GetterBoi on Feb 20, 2018 23:37:20 GMT -5
There are lots of KO Tamashii Stage out there. Very easy to copy, and maybe molded with original Bandai components so the copyright is part of the mold. Nothing unusual. The finish on the KO red lion is different from SOC. The head sculpt is not 100% same. Pretty sure Bandai is not behind the KO.
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Post by ninjarobot on Feb 21, 2018 9:43:41 GMT -5
There are lots of KO Tamashii Stage out there. Very easy to copy, and maybe molded with original Bandai components so the copyright is part of the mold. Nothing unusual. The finish on the KO red lion is different from SOC. The head sculpt is not 100% same. Pretty sure Bandai is not behind the KO. Watch Ultrazilla review on the Fantasy Jewel Red Lion. He actually finds a lot of slight molded differences in it compared to the SOC. Very interesting. |
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Post by xephon0930 on Feb 21, 2018 9:54:45 GMT -5
I noticed something today which goes in line with my thinking. I had bought a couple figurines I don't know what they are called anime female with swords and tops that pop off and the stand although pink was identical to the blue plastic connector stands that come with the fantasy jewel lion. The only difference is they are pink and have the words Bandai on them. I've been thinking that Bandai has been secretly behind the lionbots and now the fantasy jewel, I'm most convinced. Why hasn't lionbot been sued or shut down. It's as if they have a free pass but mad toys which is it's own design has had all sorts of licensing issues. Now this fantasy jewel comes out with a near perfect clone of the six golion and not a problem at all with Bandai or wep. Seems to me this Is how Bandai is getting their toy to market when maybe they legally can't do it themselves. Does Bandai have a specific facility for making these toys or did weng jai manufacture the golions. Are they tye same copmpany that does the lionbot. It just seems to soon and too good for it not to be closely related Great. So for a long time,I won't be getting an SoC Voltron at a decent price? I wish I could pay $500+. |
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