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Post by greengetterguy on Apr 22, 2018 13:00:32 GMT -5
As long as Bandai or WEP dont get too greedy, I hope we get another batch real soon.
I got one, and everyone and anyone who wants it deserve one at a fair
Price.
And if Bandai is a nice company, it would do something special with the re release Voltron....but I doubt it seeing how lazy it's been with latest Rs....
Ton of metal ton of clickies on a large solid combine SOC with no discernable QC issue...what a masterpiece SOC Voltron is.
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Post by chogo on Apr 22, 2018 13:15:53 GMT -5
I don’t know why you think this Voltron was a limited release to start with. Huge misconceptions there. This wasn’t a limited production piece. This wasn’t a street fight on preorder or a day one sell out. This releases was not a like a p-Bandai exclusive where it was hard to order one. It was the total opposite as I saw pretty much every USA e-retailer carrying it and having it available. The was no shortages on preorder. In fact, the product was widely available for months after the release date. People had a couple of months to grab one after it was released. Because of this, Some collectors took the opportunity to buy a couple more because they knew how good this thing was and wanted to have more than one. Others took the opportunity to make money on the collectors that just procrastinated and was looking for a deal, wishing the price of this to fall. Bottom line, most everyone I know that wanted one has one. I don’t feel sorry for collectors that has been following this release from the start or knew about the release of this and missed out on getting one. Some complained about not being able to get it at the retail price due to import fees. So they missed out. Even if $300-$400 was too much, if you are seriously want one, you don’t commit to anything and you buy this. You buy at least one on credit, finance it however way you need to. Otherwise SoC Voltron isn’t a must have for your collection. For those that are this late to party, noob collectors or casual fans, you pay the price for not knowing. That’s how the world works. Early bird catches the worm was taught really early in life. Man totally agree here with you on this. Voltron was on bbts for few months and price crept like $345-$350 retail. I had casual friends sit on this and then they end up missing train ride. I even told them to get it but they procrastinated and then became SoL. I knew guys that sold theirs just to make some profit and regret it. I was relatively new collector Nov.2016 and I had to swallow secondary market prices for all SoCs but I took it because I wanted them. I got all SoCs I wanted within half a year. It was crazy but I love the hunt, gotta learn how to hustle and move on an opportunity if it pops up. I just knew how to get things without paying too much on the secondary market. Heck I even got DX Mazinger Z without paying $800-1200 or whatever asking prices these days. These are high end collectibles. If you don’t have the extra money after mortgage,travels,retirement,bills etc then you probably shouldn’t be collecting these. |
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Post by voltes on Apr 22, 2018 18:23:03 GMT -5
I don’t know why you think this Voltron was a limited release to start with. Huge misconceptions there. This wasn’t a limited production piece. This wasn’t a street fight on preorder or a day one sell out. This releases was not a like a p-Bandai exclusive where it was hard to order one. It was the total opposite as I saw pretty much every USA e-retailer carrying it and having it available. The was no shortages on preorder. In fact, the product was widely available for months after the release date. People had a couple of months to grab one after it was released. Because of this, Some collectors took the opportunity to buy a couple more because they knew how good this thing was and wanted to have more than one. Others took the opportunity to make money on the collectors that just procrastinated and was looking for a deal, wishing the price of this to fall. Bottom line, most everyone I know that wanted one has one. I don’t feel sorry for collectors that has been following this release from the start or knew about the release of this and missed out on getting one. Some complained about not being able to get it at the retail price due to import fees. So they missed out. Even if $300-$400 was too much, if you are seriously want one, you don’t commit to anything and you buy this. You buy at least one on credit, finance it however way you need to. Otherwise SoC Voltron isn’t a must have for your collection. For those that are this late to party, noob collectors or casual fans, you pay the price for not knowing. That’s how the world works. Early bird catches the worm was taught really early in life. I agree. Hopefully this does get a reissue but this went on pre-order July 2016. There was plenty of time for one to get this thing. If this does get reissued, I'll gladly get one to see the differences between the original and updated/reissued SOC. Imho, best toy/action figure of all time. |
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Post by batsugun21 on Apr 22, 2018 19:28:35 GMT -5
I don’t know why you think this Voltron was a limited release to start with. Huge misconceptions there. This wasn’t a limited production piece. This wasn’t a street fight on preorder or a day one sell out. This releases was not a like a p-Bandai exclusive where it was hard to order one. It was the total opposite as I saw pretty much every USA e-retailer carrying it and having it available. The was no shortages on preorder. In fact, the product was widely available for months after the release date. People had a couple of months to grab one after it was released. Because of this, Some collectors took the opportunity to buy a couple more because they knew how good this thing was and wanted to have more than one. Others took the opportunity to make money on the collectors that just procrastinated and was looking for a deal, wishing the price of this to fall. Bottom line, most everyone I know that wanted one has one. I don’t feel sorry for collectors that has been following this release from the start or knew about the release of this and missed out on getting one. Some complained about not being able to get it at the retail price due to import fees. So they missed out. Even if $300-$400 was too much, if you are seriously want one, you don’t commit to anything and you buy this. You buy at least one on credit, finance it however way you need to. Otherwise SoC Voltron isn’t a must have for your collection. For those that are this late to party, noob collectors or casual fans, you pay the price for not knowing. That’s how the world works. Early bird catches the worm was taught really early in life. As I stated in the post it was speculation without evidence. Bandai never stated it was a limited release. However there is anecdotal evidence. My local comic shop carries SOC, usually the more popular ones. I had asked when Voltron went up for preorder if they were going to have them in stock. Was told they would and he had placed an order with Bandai. When the figure was released I checked my comic shop and he did not get it in stock. Was told they were hoping to get the order in second shipment. I asked a couple months later if he ever got the SOC Voltron. He didn’t and explained to me that Bandai doesn’t guarantee shipment unless you make a large size order. He only ordered 4 figures. He told me that when an item is limited or the production numbers are small he sometimes doesn’t get his order. Bandai fills the large orders first and then sends out the small orders. Again it’s only anecdotal. He did have the GX-72 megazord when it came out. I got mine off BBTS. as for we should not speculate on pricing because the manufacturer may read the forum and decide to raise the price is nonsense. Companies do market research. Putting an item out at too high a price point will cause the item to stagnate. Some people may pay the high price but most wont. You need to recoup production costs early. If a toy sits on the shelf too long stores may not buy future releases. You don’t market to the highest buyer you market to the average buyer. Market research does not include reading forums to see how much someone is willing to pay. Companies dont give final prices until close to release because of fluctuating production costs and fluctuating currencies. Companies who want to continue to stay in business and create a buyer base sell as low as possible while still making profits. It’s better to have long term profits than to have one large cash grab. If if there is a gx-71R I hope they get rid of the shoulder clips. It’s the only thing on the figure I don’t like. The Icarus toys Voltron did the shoulders better. Arms move fine and the shoulders stay in place, no clips. |
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Post by f360 on Apr 22, 2018 20:00:33 GMT -5
It was not a limited release, you can preorder it at many sites and stores, (it was sold out pretty fast in japan, but there was many opening in the USA)
I don't recall stories of stores not full filling their pre order for this item. There's was even discounts for preorder this at some sites.
Did you even place a preorder or were you just waiting for the store to have it instock first. if you did, date of when you preordered at the store can also affect if you will actually get the item or not.
You might have preordered TOO Late too.
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Post by tjdetweiler on Apr 22, 2018 21:11:23 GMT -5
I remember E-Knight media had one for $264 didn't get sold out easily - BBTS was the most expensive with $299 - even when it got released alot of people were still hesitant to pull the trigger cause I have seen him floating around BBTS for some time.
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Post by bocasas on Apr 23, 2018 0:28:16 GMT -5
I don’t know why you think this Voltron was a limited release to start with. Huge misconceptions there. This wasn’t a limited production piece. This wasn’t a street fight on preorder or a day one sell out. This releases was not a like a p-Bandai exclusive where it was hard to order one. It was the total opposite as I saw pretty much every USA e-retailer carrying it and having it available. The was no shortages on preorder. In fact, the product was widely available for months after the release date. People had a couple of months to grab one after it was released. Because of this, Some collectors took the opportunity to buy a couple more because they knew how good this thing was and wanted to have more than one. Others took the opportunity to make money on the collectors that just procrastinated and was looking for a deal, wishing the price of this to fall. Bottom line, most everyone I know that wanted one has one. I don’t feel sorry for collectors that has been following this release from the start or knew about the release of this and missed out on getting one. Some complained about not being able to get it at the retail price due to import fees. So they missed out. Even if $300-$400 was too much, if you are seriously want one, you don’t commit to anything and you buy this. You buy at least one on credit, finance it however way you need to. Otherwise SoC Voltron isn’t a must have for your collection. For those that are this late to party, noob collectors or casual fans, you pay the price for not knowing. That’s how the world works. Early bird catches the worm was taught really early in life. As I stated in the post it was speculation without evidence. Bandai never stated it was a limited release. However there is anecdotal evidence. My local comic shop carries SOC, usually the more popular ones. I had asked when Voltron went up for preorder if they were going to have them in stock. Was told they would and he had placed an order with Bandai. When the figure was released I checked my comic shop and he did not get it in stock. Was told they were hoping to get the order in second shipment. I asked a couple months later if he ever got the SOC Voltron. He didn’t and explained to me that Bandai doesn’t guarantee shipment unless you make a large size order. He only ordered 4 figures. He told me that when an item is limited or the production numbers are small he sometimes doesn’t get his order. Bandai fills the large orders first and then sends out the small orders. Again it’s only anecdotal. He did have the GX-72 megazord when it came out. I got mine off BBTS. as for we should not speculate on pricing because the manufacturer may read the forum and decide to raise the price is nonsense. Companies do market research. Putting an item out at too high a price point will cause the item to stagnate. Some people may pay the high price but most wont. You need to recoup production costs early. If a toy sits on the shelf too long stores may not buy future releases. You don’t market to the highest buyer you market to the average buyer. Market research does not include reading forums to see how much someone is willing to pay. Companies dont give final prices until close to release because of fluctuating production costs and fluctuating currencies. Companies who want to continue to stay in business and create a buyer base sell as low as possible while still making profits. It’s better to have long term profits than to have one large cash grab. If if there is a gx-71R I hope they get rid of the shoulder clips. It’s the only thing on the figure I don’t like. The Icarus toys Voltron did the shoulders better. Arms move fine and the shoulders stay in place, no clips. Well that may be true... I had my PO with a local retailer (payed up front and cancelled my order at amazon us) and after six month of telling me it was at customs (Argentina customs might be a little slow...) he told me that they didn't send him voltron. At the moment I doubted since I saw a few for sale at very high prices at Mercado libre (it's like ebay here). I'm still angry about missing it for that. Promised myself I would never PO anything again in my country. |
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Post by smokinchogokin on Apr 23, 2018 8:48:53 GMT -5
GX71 was my first SOC. I had no idea what it was other than an awesome looking Voltron so I preordered him from amazon. I’ll never forget the day I popped my Bandai Soul of Chogokin cherry. I was floored. I had unwittingly discovered a world I had always wanted to explore just never knew it. A year later I have 9 voltrons and an assortment of 30 or so bots, 90 percent are gokins w sentinel shin Getter showing up today and three more on the horizon. Thanks BANDAI LOL
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Post by surlyj on Apr 24, 2018 20:47:31 GMT -5
Finally got into my new place and Voltron was one of the first to get set up. Usually go with the standard sword and shield display but then I thought that this is the first voltron that you can actually do great poses with the lion heads only. Loving it without the sword, though I may eventually want to recreate the classic raised sword with the other arm pointing down pose.  |
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Post by repairtechjon on Apr 24, 2018 21:06:46 GMT -5
Nice shelf shot!
As to the sell out, this release had a cross over like NO other SOC release ever did. Voltron is such a hot nostalgic property in US especially, and around the world, way beyond GoLion originally was, that many many many buyers of action fig/Voltron/80s kids/robot/cartoon/popculture stuff freaked over this release, many not knowing, or caring, what "Soul of Chogokin" or even "chogokin" was about in the first place. It just hit the right wants, at the right time. TONS of crossover.
From what I understand, the licenses are signed out for limited times, hence the release, then rushing to clearance of other Voltron items, like new Playmates stuff.
If so, Bandai would have to get another short time license to re-release this, and that may have to be staged in/around other companies releasing toys of Voltron. Just a theory....
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Post by S_Gokin on Apr 25, 2018 1:56:28 GMT -5
Nice shelf shot! As to the sell out, this release had a cross over like NO other SOC release ever did. Voltron is such a hot nostalgic property in US especially, and around the world, way beyond GoLion originally was, that many many many buyers of action fig/Voltron/80s kids/robot/cartoon/popculture stuff freaked over this release, many not knowing, or caring, what "Soul of Chogokin" or even "chogokin" was about in the first place. It just hit the right wants, at the right time. TONS of crossover. From what I understand, the licenses are signed out for limited times, hence the release, then rushing to clearance of other Voltron items, like new Playmates stuff. If so, Bandai would have to get another short time license to re-release this, and that may have to be staged in/around other companies releasing toys of Voltron. Just a theory.... they tried to do it before Voltron with General Franky gx-63 but it didn't catch half of the thunder Voltron got that's why they released two more figures targeting the US market which is the GX-72 and the GX-77, both are good but not like Voltron, not to mention the other mechs from PR and the Dragon Zord i think if Bandai want to funds more project they should milk Voltron like Mazinger z |
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Post by batsugun21 on Apr 25, 2018 2:43:10 GMT -5
Nice shelf shot! As to the sell out, this release had a cross over like NO other SOC release ever did. Voltron is such a hot nostalgic property in US especially, and around the world, way beyond GoLion originally was, that many many many buyers of action fig/Voltron/80s kids/robot/cartoon/popculture stuff freaked over this release, many not knowing, or caring, what "Soul of Chogokin" or even "chogokin" was about in the first place. It just hit the right wants, at the right time. TONS of crossover. From what I understand, the licenses are signed out for limited times, hence the release, then rushing to clearance of other Voltron items, like new Playmates stuff. If so, Bandai would have to get another short time license to re-release this, and that may have to be staged in/around other companies releasing toys of Voltron. Just a theory.... Bandai must still have the license to Voltron since they showed off a Super Mini Pla Voltron at New York toy fair. www.gokin.it/2018/02/18/mostre-e-eventi-new-york-toy-fair-2018-bandai-voltron-super-minipla/ |
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Post by ninjarobot on Apr 25, 2018 8:45:39 GMT -5
Nice shelf shot! As to the sell out, this release had a cross over like NO other SOC release ever did. Voltron is such a hot nostalgic property in US especially, and around the world, way beyond GoLion originally was, that many many many buyers of action fig/Voltron/80s kids/robot/cartoon/popculture stuff freaked over this release, many not knowing, or caring, what "Soul of Chogokin" or even "chogokin" was about in the first place. It just hit the right wants, at the right time. TONS of crossover. From what I understand, the licenses are signed out for limited times, hence the release, then rushing to clearance of other Voltron items, like new Playmates stuff. If so, Bandai would have to get another short time license to re-release this, and that may have to be staged in/around other companies releasing toys of Voltron. Just a theory.... Bandai must still have the license to Voltron since they showed off a Super Mini Pla Voltron at New York toy fair. www.gokin.it/2018/02/18/mostre-e-eventi-new-york-toy-fair-2018-bandai-voltron-super-minipla/Bandai owns Bluefin? |
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Post by anubis20 on Apr 25, 2018 9:15:04 GMT -5
No, Bluefin is just the US distributor for Bandai stuff. |
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Post by locidm on Apr 25, 2018 12:54:08 GMT -5
I don’t know whether Bandai still has the license to reissue the SOC but do know that licenses could be very specific. Minipla and chogokin could be different license or under the same license but with different terms. In any case the minipla is a great news because at the minimum it shows that Bandai is still working with WEP and not out of the picture. Hopefully Bandai is just waiting on factory time or an opportune time to reissue the SOC.
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Post by greengetterguy on Apr 25, 2018 13:02:54 GMT -5
I believe i read an interview with Bandai rep posted here saying that, Bandai is painfully well aware of issue of re releasing SOC Voltron and is indeed waiting on the factory schedule.
I cant even imagin how anxious Bandai is to get this re release started.
Again...if.Badai was smart ( maybe even nice...NAH!), it would add little something, anything to make many of us double dip.
But i seriously doubt it.
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Post by nycprime on Apr 25, 2018 15:57:42 GMT -5
I remember E-Knight media had one for $264 didn't get sold out easily - BBTS was the most expensive with $299 - even when it got released alot of people were still hesitant to pull the trigger cause I have seen him floating around BBTS for some time. I got mine from E-Knight. I thought I was late to the party, but I probably snagged one of their last ones. |
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Post by tjdetweiler on Apr 25, 2018 16:47:12 GMT -5
My story was - I wanted a voltron since it is my ultimate robot childhood together with optimus prime - a few years back there was a masterpiece voltron and I was like oh thats cool, then after a few months - SOC Voltron was announced, already late on the party when it got announced - I don't even know what's a SOC, I've seen Voltes V before but never put any interest as I collect MP Transformers before. Lucky got one from Japan - 2 days before the official release  I was like late on the POs but seen some sites based in America with open POs, anime island, BBTS, eknight media etc.... never knew that SOCs are very popular as MP transformers are much easier to get. Oh and also never looked back I might get a MP 3.0 Optimus prime and get a MP 2.0 Megatron (Which I used to have) I hope they reissue it for people who don't have it as it is truly a masterpiece of a toy! |
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Post by smokinchogokin on Apr 25, 2018 17:37:07 GMT -5
Right on TJ! I too am collecting Bandai and other gokins because of the GX-71. It lit a fire in me that’s still burning.
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Post by tjdetweiler on Apr 25, 2018 20:38:26 GMT -5
Right on TJ! I too am collecting Bandai and other gokins because of the GX-71. It lit a fire in me that’s still burning. True my friend! I have focused my attention on SOCs and Metal builds, started w/ Gunplas and MP transformers. Alot of collectors I know started w/ gunpla as well as they were the most affordable form of robot collectibles/hobby. We are truly blessed that we can afford this figures! Yes, also burns the wallet/bank account alot, LOL  |
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