srx
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Post by srx on Oct 18, 2016 8:43:49 GMT -5
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Post by S_Gokin on Oct 18, 2016 10:27:08 GMT -5
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srx
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Post by srx on Oct 19, 2016 6:43:39 GMT -5
A competition between King of Beast and Soc Voltron
1)height: KOB 28cm, SOC Voltron 27cm.
2)weight: KOB 1.047kg, SOC Voltron ?
3)diecast content KOB 80%, SOC Voltron 30%
4)articulation: KOB can make most gestures even a side kick
SOC Voltronˊs movement are limited
5)Exterior design: KOB is not too bad, SOC Voltron is not so good
1、3、4 KOB win , what about no.5 ?
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Post by boricua on Oct 19, 2016 6:56:46 GMT -5
i agree with you srx. the thing is, a lot of collectors prefer the bandai voltron because he is from the bandai soc line and because he looks more like the 80s godaikin golion. he still doesn't look like the tv show does, but neither does the kob. the kob is most likely better made, with better materials and more metal, but seems to be really hard to purchase for the average collector. i wish the same people that made the kob decide to make a third version that looks just like the show as much as possible.
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srx
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Post by srx on Oct 19, 2016 7:12:57 GMT -5
yeah,it is hard to choose.The pictures of KOB ver 2.0 was released in January,and it is October now, something may happened during this long time.
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srx
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Post by srx on Oct 19, 2016 7:13:40 GMT -5
Hi, thanks for your reply. |
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Post by packrat on Oct 19, 2016 9:03:09 GMT -5
80% die cast? Is that more than the Godaikin Golion?
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Post by S_Gokin on Oct 19, 2016 9:21:13 GMT -5
i think its not fair to compare them yet since we dont have the SOC in hand
also the KOB offer a different taste of Voltron a more modern version, the SOC is the most anime accurate diecast Voltron we ever got, lets just wait till we have both in hand and compare them legit
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Post by reVolVer on Oct 19, 2016 10:03:47 GMT -5
5)Exterior design: KOB is not too bad, SOC Voltron is not so good Haha.. SOC Voltron not so good looking? I dont think so.  they are of different design approach. it depends on buyers preference. but if we say the closest looking Voltron anime design.. SOC clearly wins. |
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Post by bader on Oct 19, 2016 10:20:46 GMT -5
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Post by BIGFIRE on Oct 19, 2016 10:25:58 GMT -5
80% die cast? Is that more than the Godaikin Golion? Is it 80% die cast? The KOB I mean. S_Gokin can attest to this claim as well? That would be so amazing! |
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Post by S_Gokin on Oct 19, 2016 11:45:46 GMT -5
Is it 80% die cast? The KOB I mean. S_Gokin can attest to this claim as well? That would be so amazing! i still think its way to early to compare the two, i honestly dont recall the exact number, but to answer you in a safe way lol, yes the majority of the KOB body is Diecast on the blue and the yellow lions, the head the tail and body are diecast on the green and the red lions,the front and the back section are diecast the black lion front and back section along with the tail are diecast |
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Post by faelon on Oct 20, 2016 0:35:34 GMT -5
In other words... yeah it's a Bootleg. It's still a bootleg. It will always be a bootleg. There is and never will be "Licensor Approval" And the purchase chain will always be a scary pattern of internet dealings with fly by night overseas merchants. No this is not "serious completion for SOC" by any stretch of the imagination. What this change to Icarus and "V 3" means is they have funding and distribution issues.
It doesn't matter how hard anyone claims this is a "better figure than SOC". The business side issues are such that it will at best be a crap shoot for anyone trying to get one. The change in company/distribution and version number also raises the specter of likely QC issues, just on the basis that a business situation such as we are seeing, where the product passes through so many hands and such almost always abandons solid QC review and reworking pretty early in the cycle.
As much as the V 1 is a nice figure, if you ever managed to get one, I don't see anything here to inspire confidence in the delivery or quality of any later variants.
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Post by S_Gokin on Oct 20, 2016 1:57:26 GMT -5
here is what i know from reading around and from what people told me, the production of the new KOB was finished long ago, however the license approval is what delaying the release, also they want them to release it along side the SOC, but BU want to release it earlier than that
they changed to Icarus toys due to some internal dispute between the owners recently
at the end bootleg or not, i honestly dont care, if the figure truly deliver then it will always winner in my book
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Post by pixelninja on Oct 20, 2016 2:21:58 GMT -5
What happened to that Black Version of KOB by the way? The "Pending for licensor approval" was announced last year and up to now it still is...tsk, tsk.
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srx
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Post by srx on Oct 20, 2016 3:11:54 GMT -5
here is what i know from reading around and from what people told me, the production of the new KOB was finished long ago, however the license approval is what delaying the release, also they want them to release it along side the SOC, but BU want to release it earlier than that they changed to Icarus toys due to some internal dispute between the owners recently at the end bootleg or not, i honestly dont care, if the figure truly deliver then it will always winner in my book Youˊre right.As true robot fans,they donˊt care about whether it is authorized or unauthorized.They are just concerned about the product itself , including design ,transformation, articulation, material, solidity, color and so on. Everyone who play transformers are glad to see the competiton between Takara and the third party. And they donˊt have any interest in detecting transportation route or a piece of certificate. If anyone donˊt like this robot, move along please. |
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Post by chogokinsnake on Oct 20, 2016 9:33:58 GMT -5
I have the King of Beast version 1, I love it. From what I heard so far... I can only guess what happen - the whole Golion licence was a mess while Mad Toys made the version 1 (the knockoff Golion). But then somehow they manage to get an license agreement from the "owner". So they went ahead to modify their version 1, to make a proper Golion! Later on, Bandai obtain the license and become part of the license owner. No surprise they are having a hard time to get their "Golion" out of the door before SOC. Also the whole cartoon on Youtube now, incase you want to watch it!  |
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Post by pixelninja on Oct 20, 2016 9:57:15 GMT -5
I don't mind getting the newer version of KOB as long as it's cheaper than the SoC version and the QC issues resolved.
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Post by faelon on Oct 20, 2016 10:09:52 GMT -5
here is what i know from reading around and from what people told me, the production of the new KOB was finished long ago, however the license approval is what delaying the release, also they want them to release it along side the SOC, but BU want to release it earlier than that they changed to Icarus toys due to some internal dispute between the owners recently at the end bootleg or not, i honestly dont care, if the figure truly deliver then it will always winner in my book Youˊre right.As true robot fans,they donˊt care about whether it is authorized or unauthorized.They are just concerned about the product itself , including design ,transformation, articulation, material, solidity, color and so on. Everyone who play transformers are glad to see the competiton between Takara and the third party. And they donˊt have any interest in detecting transportation route or a piece of certificate. If anyone donˊt like this robot, move along please. So remind me, who are these "True Robot Fans"? Are they Madtoys, who originally designed the thing? Clearly a labor of love. Are they BU who may or may not have made some attempts to go legit with a bootleg. Likely not grasping some of the complexities involved and the shear scale of the cliff they would have to climb. How about Icarus, which would appear to have sucked up the stock and tooling at firesale pricing to distribute however they can as bootlegs for maximum profit and minimum effort. International IP Law be damned. Are they the "true robot fans"? You say they don't care about the laws, or authorization, they are just concerned about the product itself. But let me tell you, from much experience in similar industries, when the designs and tooling pass through this many hands, those for whom it was a labor of love are now long out of the picture. Whoever holds it now is just concerned with maximizing return on the tooling. Not on color quality, assembly quality etc. you don't buy bootleg tooling if those sorts of things are a concern. |
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Post by jaylive on Oct 20, 2016 10:30:38 GMT -5
i got my kob from toyercity a long time ago. no issues or problems whatsoever.... well no they held it in customs for a couple weeks but thats not a reflection on them.
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