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Post by jakcrow on Aug 17, 2018 16:16:50 GMT -5
So that means there's a KO MB Blue Frame coming? 😁
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Post by k1r4yamato on Sept 16, 2018 8:51:37 GMT -5
Another 3rd Party Company bite the dust! And This time is......DABAN! LOL
Chinese Police raid DABAN factory and detained at least nine suspect and confiscated more than fifty six thousand 'copyright infringement'
in their Warehouse. On August 16, 2018, Chinese task force conducted simultaneous arrest in Guangzhou, Guangdong, Fujian, Shantou, Zhangzhou,
Zhejiang and Changnan, wipe out all of DABAN factories and warehouses in one fell swoop. Chinese authorithies also arrest Xie Mou, DABAN big boss at these operation.
WHEW!...What a time to be alive. LOL
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Post by dgn0000 on Sept 16, 2018 9:04:58 GMT -5
Another 3rd Party Company bite the dust! And This time is......DABAN! LOL Chinese Police raid DABAN factory and detained at least nine suspect and confiscated more than fifty six thousand 'copyright infringement' in their Warehouse. On August 16, 2018, Chinese task force conducted simultaneous arrest in Guangzhou, Guangdong, Fujian, Shantou, Zhangzhou, Zhejiang and Changnan, wipe out all of DABAN factories and warehouses in one fell swoop. Chinese authorithies also arrest Xie Mou, DABAN big boss at these operation. WHEW!...What a time to be alive. LOL How old is this news? We are on Sep, while the raid as cited was on Aug 16. Nevertheless, Bandai is on hunting mode lol. Personally I want good chinese brands to live on, 3R, Moshow, Metalclub etc. EDIT: Found the link? L ink Rip 2017 D.Momoko, 2018 Daban. 2019 A bootleg company which initial is D? |
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Post by k1r4yamato on Sept 17, 2018 6:38:39 GMT -5
Another 3rd Party Company bite the dust! And This time is......DABAN! LOL Chinese Police raid DABAN factory and detained at least nine suspect and confiscated more than fifty six thousand 'copyright infringement' in their Warehouse. On August 16, 2018, Chinese task force conducted simultaneous arrest in Guangzhou, Guangdong, Fujian, Shantou, Zhangzhou, Zhejiang and Changnan, wipe out all of DABAN factories and warehouses in one fell swoop. Chinese authorithies also arrest Xie Mou, DABAN big boss at these operation. WHEW!...What a time to be alive. LOL How old is this news? We are on Sep, while the raid as cited was on Aug 16. Nevertheless, Bandai is on hunting mode lol. Personally I want good chinese brands to live on, 3R, Moshow, Metalclub etc. EDIT: Found the link? L ink Rip 2017 D.Momoko, 2018 Daban. 2019 A bootleg company which initial is D? I guess its a covert operations. This operation is a big one and involved a lot of officers, so they keep it secret.
If you need more info, check Samueldecal Facebook. Everything is there, from the news and video footage from Chinese authorities.
What next then? Hobby Star? Super Nova?..... LOL
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Post by jakcrow on Sept 17, 2018 7:33:08 GMT -5
Isn't this the 2nd or 3rd time theyve gone after the "company" that is Daban?
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Post by dgn0000 on Sept 17, 2018 14:28:11 GMT -5
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Post by bleah on Sept 17, 2018 15:34:32 GMT -5
Ooooooooh shiiiiieeeeeeet. Better get your KO MBs orders in before things get serious. I mean, they may resurface again under a different name but you'll never know.
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Post by jakcrow on Sept 17, 2018 17:01:33 GMT -5
Unfortunately I don't see Bandai getting the hint and really making an effort to release kits people really want.
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Post by k1r4yamato on Dec 12, 2018 10:16:08 GMT -5
On August 2018, Bandai shutdown DABAN factory. And then, three months later they did it again.
This time, they nailed...... SUPERNOVA! LOL
Well done, Bandai! Well done...
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Post by bleah on Dec 12, 2018 10:30:50 GMT -5
On August 2018, Bandai shutdown DABAN factory. And then, three months later they did it again. This time, they nailed...... SUPERNOVA! LOL Well done, Bandai! Well done... That may be the case but I do like their interpretation of the Altron Nataku. I think it's better than the official design. |
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Post by seanami on Dec 12, 2018 11:08:22 GMT -5
SN Wing Zero is still coming out under different name so doesnt matter
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Post by jakcrow on Dec 12, 2018 12:57:53 GMT -5
And bandai still doesn't get it. Many of these KO makers catering to a market of people who want different kits than what bandai is releasing. People want side story kits, and alternates, and just plain more MG kits. For example: people have wanted a MG Blue Frame 3rd for years to the point that the few units that came out from DM are going for $400 when they show up. Instead bandai gave us the blue frame type d and the mirage frame noir, both rehashing existing striker pack accessories. I personally have wanted MG kits of the Gold Frame Amatsu, Sword Calamity, Dreadnought, Blue Dual, and Verde Buster Gundams. Instead we got some of the worst amateur hour official kitbashes in the forms of the NG 1/100 librarian Gundams. At least bandai is releasing the Dynames......after 9 years and too many recolors of the exia, 00, and QANT.
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Post by jakcrow on Dec 12, 2018 12:58:55 GMT -5
SN Wing Zero is still coming out under different name so doesnt matter It's looking like a kit version of the GFFMC. |
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Post by seanami on Dec 12, 2018 14:20:52 GMT -5
SN Wing Zero is still coming out under different name so doesnt matter It's looking like a kit version of the GFFMC. Theres the SN version and there is an MJH version MJH is Hi Res, would have to see comparisons for SN |
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Post by dgn0000 on Dec 12, 2018 14:33:38 GMT -5
And bandai still doesn't get it. Many of these KO makers catering to a market of people who want different kits than what bandai is releasing. People want side story kits, and alternates, and just plain more MG kits. For example: people have wanted a MG Blue Frame 3rd for years to the point that the few units that came out from DM are going for $400 when they show up. Instead bandai gave us the blue frame type d and the mirage frame noir, both rehashing existing striker pack accessories. I personally have wanted MG kits of the Gold Frame Amatsu, Sword Calamity, Dreadnought, Blue Dual, and Verde Buster Gundams. Instead we got some of the worst amateur hour official kitbashes in the forms of the NG 1/100 librarian Gundams. At least bandai is releasing the Dynames......after 9 years and too many recolors of the exia, 00, and QANT. Typical biggie enterprise. When they get big, they forget who fed them in the first place. That's why big companies gradually lose their market to smaller and more innovative companies. IDK how long Bandai can monopolise the market with their IP rights. But imagine a day when KO companies tell Jap gov to make the market more "fair", and in return Jap gov can collect their tax, what would Bandai do? |
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Post by bleah on Dec 12, 2018 15:10:00 GMT -5
And bandai still doesn't get it. Many of these KO makers catering to a market of people who want different kits than what bandai is releasing. People want side story kits, and alternates, and just plain more MG kits. For example: people have wanted a MG Blue Frame 3rd for years to the point that the few units that came out from DM are going for $400 when they show up. Instead bandai gave us the blue frame type d and the mirage frame noir, both rehashing existing striker pack accessories. I personally have wanted MG kits of the Gold Frame Amatsu, Sword Calamity, Dreadnought, Blue Dual, and Verde Buster Gundams. Instead we got some of the worst amateur hour official kitbashes in the forms of the NG 1/100 librarian Gundams. At least bandai is releasing the Dynames......after 9 years and too many recolors of the exia, 00, and QANT. Typical biggie enterprise. When they get big, they forget who fed them in the first place. That's why big companies gradually lose their market to smaller and more innovative companies. IDK how long Bandai can monopolise the market with their IP rights. But imagine a day when KO companies tell Jap gov to make the market more "fair", and in return Jap gov can collect their tax, what would Bandai do? Uuuuuuuhhh... for as long as they own the IP to Gundam, which is forever until they sell it. They will just keep going after the 3rd party KO. If what I read is true, that China is becoming strict and are cracking down on bootlegs, then eventually, all the 3rd party KO will produce are modified versions (like the Ventienne Destiny/Barbatos). It's just not the same as the original designs. What you're imagining will never happen. |
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Post by jakcrow on Dec 12, 2018 15:21:05 GMT -5
Typical biggie enterprise. When they get big, they forget who fed them in the first place. That's why big companies gradually lose their market to smaller and more innovative companies. IDK how long Bandai can monopolise the market with their IP rights. But imagine a day when KO companies tell Jap gov to make the market more "fair", and in return Jap gov can collect their tax, what would Bandai do? Uuuuuuuhhh... for as long as they own the IP to Gundam, which is forever until they sell it. They will just keep going after the 3rd party KO. If what I read is true, that China is becoming strict and are cracking down on bootlegs, then eventually, all the 3rd party KO will produce are modified versions (like the Ventienne Destiny/Barbatos). It's just not the same as the original designs. What you're imagining will never happen. Correct. I for one have no illusions that Bandai will never stop going after bootlegs, but until they address the reason bootlegs exist, they will keep existing. I think a great middle ground would be conversion kits instead of full knock offs, NOT made of resin but of quality plastics of course. There are a few small companies doing those with mixed results. |
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Post by dgn0000 on Dec 12, 2018 16:16:39 GMT -5
Typical biggie enterprise. When they get big, they forget who fed them in the first place. That's why big companies gradually lose their market to smaller and more innovative companies. IDK how long Bandai can monopolise the market with their IP rights. But imagine a day when KO companies tell Jap gov to make the market more "fair", and in return Jap gov can collect their tax, what would Bandai do? Uuuuuuuhhh... for as long as they own the IP to Gundam, which is forever until they sell it. They will just keep going after the 3rd party KO. If what I read is true, that China is becoming strict and are cracking down on bootlegs, then eventually, all the 3rd party KO will produce are modified versions (like the Ventienne Destiny/Barbatos). It's just not the same as the original designs. What you're imagining will never happen. I actually like the phrase "will never happen" but the truth is human is very creative at surprising others. I believe human is the most creative being, and being human means each is interested in what best serves their interest. If someone out there figures out how to deal with IP and at the same time creates mutual interest with other people, that person is more qualified than me to answer the question when is the time to take over Bandai's market. It would be interesting to see what chinese people come up with, given the challenge atm (Bandai = own). Modified version is wise move. |
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Post by jakcrow on Dec 12, 2018 16:30:37 GMT -5
The 3rd party market around transformers is crazy successful and operating completely in the open. And most 3rd party companies are making better versions of the figures too. Not sure how these companies are operating
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Post by bleah on Dec 12, 2018 16:41:57 GMT -5
Uuuuuuuhhh... for as long as they own the IP to Gundam, which is forever until they sell it. They will just keep going after the 3rd party KO. If what I read is true, that China is becoming strict and are cracking down on bootlegs, then eventually, all the 3rd party KO will produce are modified versions (like the Ventienne Destiny/Barbatos). It's just not the same as the original designs. What you're imagining will never happen. I actually like the phrase "will never happen" but the truth is human is very creative at surprising others. I believe human is the most creative being, and being human means each is interested in what best serves their interest. If someone out there figures out how to deal with IP and at the same time creates mutual interest with other people, that person is more qualified than me to answer the question when is the time to take over Bandai's market. It would be interesting to see what chinese people come up with, given the challenge atm (Bandai = own). Modified version is wise move. Do you really believe that the Japanese government will say ok and allow 3rd party KOs to use Bandai's designs just because they paid taxes for it? The Japanese government does not own the Gundam franchise. It is a privately owned franchise hence the PROPERTY in IP. And there are laws that are in place that has to be followed even by China, where the 3P KOs are located. Yes, fine, the 3rd party may get the bigger share of the market if they produce what Bandai won't. But Bandai can stop them as well. Do you think this cease and desist can just happen without the cooperation of China's government with Bandai's request? |
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