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Post by Chen on Jul 31, 2018 6:07:59 GMT -5
I'll give Sentinel props for trying something different with Grendizer, the downside is that this was already done before and is very Gundam-ish.
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Post by k1r4yamato on Jul 31, 2018 8:58:42 GMT -5
... What's that 'Juggernaut size' fist for? Punching your wallet, maybe?
Not particularly a fan of the combined form, but its there for those the like it. Wonder if it can be configured in a cool half-combined form, so we lose the giant hands and odd shoulder pads, but still look good with spacer as some battle pack. Hahahah.....instead of Double Harken, Sentinel Grendizer has Money grabber too!  I am quite sure, this 'Variation' doesn't come cheap. If Sentinel sold them separately, it will doubled the price.
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Post by S_Gokin on Aug 25, 2018 11:25:47 GMT -5
WOW diecast loaded 
and of course they will ask top dollar for it
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Post by chogokinabdul on Aug 25, 2018 11:41:23 GMT -5
WOW diecast loaded and of course they will ask top dollar for it
II don't get it ! why?!! this is barbie level of Die cast!!! mazinkaiser had Ok amount , shin getter robo had less .... Now THIS !!! why encluding Die Cast in the first place? |
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Post by FixedInPost on Aug 25, 2018 11:46:38 GMT -5
This is disappointing. Only good part is the money I’ll save by skipping it. I was on the fence anyway over the proportions. The spazer transformation is a cool new take on things though.
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Post by bocasas on Aug 25, 2018 15:28:19 GMT -5
Riobot line is not known for it's metal content. I own tsugumori, Eva x godzilla shiryu, anubis and jehuty, and shin getter. All of them have 0 diecast except for shin getter. The line is better known for it's great articulation. If you want mostly die cast you should go for other line/company (I don't know how much die cast the metamorforce line have)
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Post by FixedInPost on Aug 25, 2018 16:34:40 GMT -5
Good point. I’ve only got the Riobot Mazinkaiser and I guess I just hold that as a standard. Not that Maz is super loaded with metal but it does make for a bit of heft.
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Post by Actarus on Aug 26, 2018 7:54:32 GMT -5
They are not meant to be heavy, but articulated.
Diecast content is small, but well situated so it can have many pose.
But they can't charge that much for it. Probably a lot of money will be made with the extra set.
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Post by KumaStyle.com (TJ) on Aug 26, 2018 10:05:12 GMT -5
Riobot line is not known for it's metal content. I own tsugumori, Eva x godzilla shiryu, anubis and jehuty, and shin getter. All of them have 0 diecast except for shin getter. The line is better known for it's great articulation. If you want mostly die cast you should go for other line/company (I don't know how much die cast the metamorforce line have) Excellently written by both he and Actarus. I have the complete Riobot, xT-Rex, Re:Edit, Metamor-Force, etc etc lines and I'm the first one to say they certainly aren't for everyone. |
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Post by S_Gokin on Aug 27, 2018 2:45:12 GMT -5
thanks for the feedback
so their selling point is great articulation ? does that worth the huge asking price ?
i mean Bandai answer is the FA line and its at least $150 cheaper than Riobot, and even tho its cheaper i still think its a hair over priced technically they are more like newer SRCs
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Post by chogokinabdul on Aug 27, 2018 3:52:39 GMT -5
Riobot line is not known for it's metal content. I own tsugumori, Eva x godzilla shiryu, anubis and jehuty, and shin getter. All of them have 0 diecast except for shin getter. The line is better known for it's great articulation. If you want mostly die cast you should go for other line/company (I don't know how much die cast the metamorforce line have) Excellently written by both he and Actarus. I have the complete Riobot, xT-Rex, Re:Edit, Metamor-Force, etc etc lines and I'm the first one to say they certainly aren't for everyone. I beg to differ guys. Sentinel are actually promoting that this line is their answer to gokin lines! look at their official website where they clearly promote the Highlight of using Diecast to make the toy heavy. here: sentinel-toys.com/catalog/info.php?target=products_detail&products_id=279and here: sentinel-toys.com/catalog/info.php?target=products_detail&products_id=446and Diecast is the first to be mentioned when they are asked about the materials! they are happy with it ! Material: Diecast, ABS, PVC, PA, POM PKG: W370mm, D120mm, H300mm ©1998 永井豪・石川賢／ダイナミック企画・『真ゲッターロボ』製作委員会 |
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Post by Actarus on Aug 27, 2018 8:00:34 GMT -5
Diecast is what one use to say their products is premium.
Not matter how much.
Riobot Sentinel line is indeed the answer to Bandai SOC, but it's nowhere comparable.
Riobot try to give us an articulated Revoltech/SRC in the SOC premium line.
But diecast content is very small
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Post by KumaStyle.com (TJ) on Aug 27, 2018 8:31:20 GMT -5
I beg to differ guys. [/quote] You have the right to "beg to differ" as much as you want but as someone who's been asked not to post things like weight on his reviews of their products because diecast content isn't their primary focus I know that what the aforementioned posters have written is absolutely right. Even without behind-the-scenes knowledge the other post confirming straight out that they have multiple products in these lines which are entirely plastic should confirm it on its own. This is one of those things that will be argued for the sake of pride and just end up spamming multiple pages so please just understand and let it lay. Buy Grendizer or don't. |
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Post by chogokinabdul on Aug 27, 2018 9:50:29 GMT -5
You have the right to "beg to differ" as much as you want but as someone who's been asked not to post things like weight on his reviews of their products because diecast content isn't their primary focus I know that what the aforementioned posters have written is absolutely right. Even without behind-the-scenes knowledge the other post confirming straight out that they have multiple products in these lines which are entirely plastic should confirm it on its own. This is one of those things that will be argued for the sake of pride and just end up spamming multiple pages so please just understand and let it lay. Buy Grendizer or don't.[/quote] Kuma, are you arguing now for the sake of your pride? dude , I didn't argue with you I was showing you their misleading info that is promoting die cast content above all.this was my first reply to you and you call it arguing ? I might end up buying it because it is grendizer after all but I know they are overpriced. they can easily add metal in the torso and feet and it will still be as articulated but they will end up with happier costumers and no one would have to defend any pride bro. |
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Post by greengetterguy on Aug 27, 2018 10:20:30 GMT -5
Let's vote with our money.
Please Don't support a figure you dont agree with.
I will pass this for few reasons, yes including lack of diecast versus price ratio...Lack of diecast in high end fig seems like a trend... I dont like it. Mind you I'm not asking for a brick. But feet def could have been metal...
What are we preparing for world war 3? The infinity War? Something going on at Antarctic? The end of the world?
Is it the tariff? I mean, what is it? I know its not due to lack of engineering.
Just for the record, as with most of us, I do love Sentinel products so...
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Post by KumaStyle.com (TJ) on Aug 27, 2018 11:40:40 GMT -5
Kuma, are you arguing now for the sake of your pride? dude , I didn't argue with you I was showing you their misleading info that is promoting die cast content above all.this was my first reply to you and you call it arguing ? I might end up buying it because it is grendizer after all but I know they are overpriced. they can easily add metal in the torso and feet and it will still be as articulated but they will end up with happier costumers and no one would have to defend any pride bro. I wasn't arguing with you at all and nothing about the conversation even involves me on a personal level let alone my pride so what are you even talking about? I simple reiterated that the aforementioned posters were factually correct and the amount of diecast was in tune with the majority of their products. I even agree with you that they're overpriced but on a personal level they're my go to for Mecha tots due to stylization and engineering/articulation. |
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Post by chogokinabdul on Aug 27, 2018 12:02:31 GMT -5
Kuma, are you arguing now for the sake of your pride? dude , I didn't argue with you I was showing you their misleading info that is promoting die cast content above all.this was my first reply to you and you call it arguing ? I might end up buying it because it is grendizer after all but I know they are overpriced. they can easily add metal in the torso and feet and it will still be as articulated but they will end up with happier costumers and no one would have to defend any pride bro. I want arguing with you at all and nothing about the conversation even involves me on a personal level let alone my pride so what are you even talking about? I simple reiterated that the aforementioned posters were factually correct and the amount of diecast was in tune with the majority of their products. I even agree with you that they're overpriced but on a personal level they're my go to for Mecha tots due to stylization and engineering/articulation. I agree with you , I like the look of their products. would you please just answer this frankly , wouldn't you prefer if this grendizer had more amount of Cold die cast? just the torso and feet if not lower legs? it doesn't challenge them to add something that will make fans buy it with a heart beat rather than just buying it! |
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Post by KumaStyle.com (TJ) on Aug 27, 2018 13:32:18 GMT -5
I want arguing with you at all and nothing about the conversation even involves me on a personal level let alone my pride so what are you even talking about? I simple reiterated that the aforementioned posters were factually correct and the amount of diecast was in tune with the majority of their products. I even agree with you that they're overpriced but on a personal level they're my go to for Mecha tots due to stylization and engineering/articulation. I agree with you , I like the look of their products. would you please just answer this frankly , wouldn't you prefer if this grendizer had more amount of Cold die cast? just the torso and feet if not lower legs? it doesn't challenge them to add something that will make fans buy it with a heart beat rather than just buying it! No I would prefer it as-is because as a photographer who likes a good range of freedom in terms of articulation and general "life" in stances I enjoy shooting these more than any other mecha products I own (older SRCs are pretty close as well.) If I want big, heavy items Igo to lines like Soul of Chogokin and even more so Fewture Models EX Gokin; both of which I also collect. Diecast as obvious is heavy and can be detrimental on toys made for more advanced posing as it will weigh on their joints (which effects Fewture Models products in particular.) Realistically the most that the majority of collectors of these items will feel diecast/heft of them is between unboxing and placing them on a shelf where they will ultimately be for 99.9% of the time owned. At that point, what does any of that matter? It's minute. The only thing that I wish is that Sentinel items were less expensive but on the flip side after seeing a video of the inner workings of Flame Toys Drift (which is very similar to the engineering of the Re:Edit iron men pieces also designed by Chemical Attack,) I realized that the inner frames of these have a lot more parts and whatnot that go into them than other lines so there's a definite increase in price because of that as well. |
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Post by greengetterguy on Aug 27, 2018 15:45:15 GMT -5
But that minute means everything (to me.)
Sure that $300 highly articulated and laser sculpted perfectly painted diecast fig going to just stand there in default pose on the shelf for weeks at a time.
After the thrilling hunt of tracking waiting then to have the trophy in your hand. Then gutting the box to reveal the prize and handling it for atleast an hour in wonder. Then posing it few times then finally placing him in its home...ah, Priceless. It almost make it all worth awhile...
Also, as important, it's that option of having a figure that can perform it's intended purpose.
Knowing that at any moment, I can handle the figure and give me all the pleasurable sensory experience I need from a very expensive gokin.
I need all that. A automotive quality paint, detailed source faithful
sculpt, the cold assuringly heavy metal, durable and complex joints to perform dynamic poses without the worrying about risk of it breaking.....
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Post by KumaStyle.com (TJ) on Aug 27, 2018 16:00:22 GMT -5
But that minute means everything (to me.) Then don't buy it. It's really that simple. I responded to a question asking my personal preference and definitely didn't state or imply that mine was "right" or "better" than anyone else's as it's all subjective. I buy what I like. I don't buy what I don't. However I don't go to threads for items and state that they should basically change their pre-defined philosophy on toy production just because said items don't fit my preferences particularly when I can go by versions of the same character from other companies that do fit them. It makes no sense. |
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