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Post by zetaking on May 16, 2023 13:45:11 GMT -5
Given that my first popy toy was a GA-50 Daiku, I would be slightly biased. But, I honestly believe that if the GX-100 was changed to a dx series, the dx collectors will purchase them more so than a gx series. The reality is that much of the GX chogokin series has kind of dropped off in terms of quality. From the beginning til now, you can even tell the plastic has cheapened out as well. Thats why if it was a DX, it would have better shot at keeping its value in the long term.
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Post by mojacko on May 16, 2023 17:08:22 GMT -5
No doubt it will sell and Gaiking fans will buy it. But will it sell like hotcakes? However It was rumored to be a DX and later change to GX-100, did Bandai got cold feet on the market? Why all of a sudden did Bandai change the branding to a mere GX from DX given the ginormous size of GX 100 Gaiking? What's up with the price reduction? Again its all about fanbase, if Gaiking was indeed that popular then the sales will speak for itself. If it sold much then price will most likely go up than discounted.
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Post by S_Gokin on May 17, 2023 6:27:45 GMT -5
Given that my first popy toy was a GA-50 Daiku, I would be slightly biased. But, I honestly believe that if the GX-100 was changed to a dx series, the dx collectors will purchase them more so than a gx series. The reality is that much of the GX chogokin series has kind of dropped off in terms of quality. From the beginning til now, you can even tell the plastic has cheapened out as well. Thats why if it was a DX, it would have better shot at keeping its value in the long term.
highly agree with you on the cheapness in some releases, what is super annoying is that TWE sets are all plastic for example GX-97X is all plastic while it should be at least some diecast part
No doubt it will sell and Gaiking fans will buy it. But will it sell like hotcakes? However It was rumored to be a DX and later change to GX-100, did Bandai got cold feet on the market? Why all of a sudden did Bandai change the branding to a mere GX from DX given the ginormous size of GX 100 Gaiking? What's up with the price reduction? Again its all about fanbase, if Gaiking was indeed that popular then the sales will speak for itself. If it sold much then price will most likely go up than discounted.
its wasn't rumored as a DX, it was on display as a DX, i still remember Bandai's announcement it was "the reveal of two DX SOC"
i think they change it because of the scale
but i do agree with you not alot of people are hard core fans for Gaiking + its not a DX (limited run item)
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Post by Magmatron on May 17, 2023 7:55:35 GMT -5
Again its all about fanbase, if Gaiking was indeed that popular then the sales will speak for itself. If it sold much then price will most likely go up than discounted. Now that you mention it, I don't think I ever saw any Gaiking figure fly off the shelves. They always go on discount. |
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Post by mojacko on May 17, 2023 9:32:51 GMT -5
Given that my first popy toy was a GA-50 Daiku, I would be slightly biased. But, I honestly believe that if the GX-100 was changed to a dx series, the dx collectors will purchase them more so than a gx series. The reality is that much of the GX chogokin series has kind of dropped off in terms of quality. From the beginning til now, you can even tell the plastic has cheapened out as well. Thats why if it was a DX, it would have better shot at keeping its value in the long term. highly agree with you on the cheapness in some releases, what is super annoying is that TWE sets are all plastic for example GX-97X is all plastic while it should be at least some diecast part
No doubt it will sell and Gaiking fans will buy it. But will it sell like hotcakes? However It was rumored to be a DX and later change to GX-100, did Bandai got cold feet on the market? Why all of a sudden did Bandai change the branding to a mere GX from DX given the ginormous size of GX 100 Gaiking? What's up with the price reduction? Again its all about fanbase, if Gaiking was indeed that popular then the sales will speak for itself. If it sold much then price will most likely go up than discounted. its wasn't rumored as a DX, it was on display as a DX, i still remember Bandai's announcement it was "the reveal of two DX SOC"
i think they change it because of the scale
but i do agree with you not alot of people are hard core fans for Gaiking + its not a DX (limited run item)
Well there you go, so Bandai officially made it as a DX but eventually change it to a GX. They basically downgrade Gaiking! Bandai probably shot their own feet on this! |
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Post by Swintronix on May 17, 2023 13:03:15 GMT -5
Well there you go, so Bandai officially made it as a DX but eventually change it to a GX. They basically downgrade Gaiking! Bandai probably shot their own feet on this! The fact that Daikuu Maryuu was announced as DX and released as GX means very little, if anything. People seem to think it implies widespread corporate incompetence at Bandai, but it doesn't imply anything. Nothing about GX-100 screams DX, or even suggests DX. The scale is GX, the features are identical to any other SOC D.C. figure, and the quality is not higher or lower than a typical GX. The finished product of GX-100 doesn't suggest a DX design with the corners cut off to make a GX. It's just a typically excellent GX from top to bottom. Its size doesn't make it DX material. It's large because that's the scale of the line, and they'd already made a mini version which would never really satisfy the market. Bandai went for the holy grail, knowing that no one else could do it, or should do it, and they hit a home run. They got a lot of people to buy an $800 toy with $200 option parts, and they'll sell even more at $500. I hope they put a statue of Ken (the sr. product manager and infomercial pitchman) in the lobby next to Mazinger-Z. Perhaps Bandai early-pitched it as DX so they could preview it without spilling the beans on GX-100. That is what I like to think. |
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Post by mojacko on May 17, 2023 14:26:16 GMT -5
Well there you go, so Bandai officially made it as a DX but eventually change it to a GX. They basically downgrade Gaiking! Bandai probably shot their own feet on this! The fact that Daikuu Maryuu was announced as DX and released as GX means very little, if anything. People seem to think it implies widespread corporate incompetence at Bandai, but it doesn't imply anything. Nothing about GX-100 screams DX, or even suggests DX. The scale is GX, the features are identical to any other SOC D.C. figure, and the quality is not higher or lower than a typical GX. The finished product of GX-100 doesn't suggest a DX design with the corners cut off to make a GX. It's just a typically excellent GX from top to bottom. Its size doesn't make it DX material. It's large because that's the scale of the line, and they'd already made a mini version which would never really satisfy the market. Bandai went for the holy grail, knowing that no one else could do it, or should do it, and they hit a home run. They got a lot of people to buy an $800 toy with $200 option parts, and they'll sell even more at $500. I hope they put a statue of Ken (the sr. product manager and infomercial pitchman) in the lobby next to Mazinger-Z. Perhaps Bandai early-pitched it as DX so they could preview it without spilling the beans on GX-100. That is what I like to think. No one is claiming incompetence, that is far fetched. But bottom line is GX-100 is now on the discount bin. It hurts when you bought it a premium then later on learn that its gonna be discounted. It is what it is, Its business, sometimes you do good sometimes not so good. |
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Post by IronSouls on May 17, 2023 18:48:14 GMT -5
I think there is a few good reasons for GX-100 not selling well.
1) As pointed out Gaiking (especially the original Gaiking) isn't exactly the most popular.
2) Gaiking has had 2 (GX-05 and GX-27, 3 if you count the R) releases. GX=05 was... not good. GX-27 was decent.
3) GX-100 is HUGE, like... it's enormous. It either will eat up all your shelf space, or just not fit at all.
4) The addon pack should have come with it. It probably would have too if it was t was being designed as a DX Chogokin, but I think they wanted to get the price point down.
That said, it's a VERY cool SOC. It's very well done, Daikyu-Maru is huge and has a lot of presence. Gaiking is better then the GX-27 release too. The 3 dino ships are very nice. Overall it is a very well done figure. I highly recommend it if you like Gaiking at all and have a place to display it.
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Post by Sagat on May 18, 2023 3:12:43 GMT -5
Thanks for the link. Shame no artwork.  Maz, Great Maz, Combattler, and Voltes. All are money makers for Bandai, in DX or SOC format. Don't hold your breath for a DX re-issue though. Just release Daimos or Grendizer to complete the trilogy for either series already.  |
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Post by mpchi on May 18, 2023 16:00:19 GMT -5
IMHO, the add-on set probably hurts its sales more, since after you pay so much for GX-100, it is still incomplete. And the add-on set is P-Bandai, so not something you can come back and buy easily, nor was it very cheap for the parts. Just not a very enticing package overall, unless for collectors like us that were already pretty set to buy it regardless. Even at almost half price, just the thought of having a complete GX-100 will bump the price up for another $200 or more, if you can still find the add-ons without markups. Not that cheap anymore.
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Post by zetaking on May 19, 2023 12:25:49 GMT -5
IMHO, the add-on set probably hurts its sales more, since after you pay so much for GX-100, it is still incomplete. And the add-on set is P-Bandai, so not something you can come back and buy easily, nor was it very cheap for the parts. Just not a very enticing package overall, unless for collectors like us that were already pretty set to buy it regardless. Even at almost half price, just the thought of having a complete GX-100 will bump the price up for another $200 or more, if you can still find the add-ons without markups. Not that cheap anymore. That is why they should have done it as a DX mainly because it caters to collectors who are willing to part with more money...lol. |
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Post by mpchi on May 19, 2023 13:49:48 GMT -5
But in the end, it doesn't affect me much. Missed the big discount, but I did get the whole thing, and I am happy. While later-comers get to enjoy it too. My friend would have never gotten one otherwise, if not for the big sale and ridiculous Amazon Japan shipping, so there is some good about it.
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Post by GetterBoi on May 21, 2023 12:05:38 GMT -5
Pivoting the convo back to Voltes V, I think this new show might generate more demand for the now elusive and expensive DX SOC. If you have an extra one sitting in a box, would watch for a price jump and could be a good time to sell.
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Post by Sagat on May 21, 2023 19:51:43 GMT -5
Pivoting the convo back to Voltes V, I think this new show might generate more demand for the now elusive and expensive DX SOC. If you have an extra one sitting in a box, would watch for a price jump and could be a good time to sell. An extra one lying around? I wish given how difficult/how long it was able to get one. FTR no way I am selling mine. I've been watching various trailers of the live action movie. That clip looks awesome. Has it been released yet? Does good fan service, but when I first saw a few clips - a movie with a Japanese theme song, and Tagalog and English?  Fans will love it, but for me I try not to watch live action movies of anime or manga I have watched/read. |
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Post by Sagat on May 21, 2023 20:58:32 GMT -5
Good cover of the theme song. There's a music video on youtube but not available to buy on iTunes. WTF?
Edit: so many fans will have this as this as their new ringtone!
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Post by mpchi on May 21, 2023 21:00:32 GMT -5
Watched a low res upload Episode 1 on Youtube with no subtitle yesterday. My first impression is that, it is a mix bag. When it comes to the CG stuff and Voltes, it is indeed pretty awesome. Very polished for a TV special effects show. The Volt-In sequence really hit it home! But once it gets to the humans, it still feels very cheesy with the 80s tokusatsu vibe, wooden or exaggerated acting (no subtle in-between), and very generic dialogue (on stuff I can understand, as it is partially English). Would have been very cool through the eyes of a 5-year-old robot loving kid, but hard to miss the not very good acting and script as an adult. But it was not a bad watch, and fans may still really love it, if you have your expectations adjusted. A lot of effort went in, which I appreciate and still tell some friends to check it out, but still very rough on the human stuff, IMHO.
Now, I really wonder if there will be a gokin combiner released based on this design.
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Post by Sagat on May 21, 2023 21:21:42 GMT -5
Watched a low res upload Episode 1 on Youtube with no subtitle yesterday. My first impression is that, it is a mix bag. When it comes to the CG stuff and Voltes, it is indeed pretty awesome. Very polished for a TV special effects show. The Volt-In sequence really hit it home! But once it gets to the humans, it still feels very cheesy with the 80s tokusatsu vibe, wooden or exaggerated acting (no subtle in-between), and very generic dialogue (on stuff I can understand, as it is partially English). Would have been very cool through the eyes of a 5-year-old robot loving kid, but hard to miss the not very good acting and script as an adult. But it was not a bad watch, and fans may still really love it, if you have your expectations adjusted. A lot of effort went in, which I appreciate and still tell some friends to check it out, but still very rough on the human stuff, IMHO. Agree with exactly your summary. Remake of the theme song would be an instabuy for me on iTunes - clear vocals not trying not to clone the original theme. Now, I really wonder if there will be a gokin combiner released based on this design. It is a licence to print money if they did. I'd buy one. |
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Post by zman on May 21, 2023 23:08:31 GMT -5
Pivoting the convo back to Voltes V, I think this new show might generate more demand for the now elusive and expensive DX SOC. If you have an extra one sitting in a box, would watch for a price jump and could be a good time to sell. Music to my ears.  i was able to snag a total of 8 DXs during the release mad scramble in the late 2020. Two were for a good buddy of mine. Boy, was he so glad and happy. |
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Post by Sagat on May 22, 2023 5:35:42 GMT -5
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Post by mojacko on May 22, 2023 9:35:07 GMT -5
Yes the network really milk out this series to 80 episodes. A lot of backstory and cliffhanging episodes especially on the first battle of Voltes V and the 1st Beast Fighter Dokugaga whom was in no relationship whit Lady Gaga. Lol. I could understand why they have to drag the original 40 episodes anime to to 80. First of it was a daily telenovela soap opera genre on TV. Its free to air in local Philippine channel so they have to make a hell lot of money on the advertisement that will sponsor the show. Its brutal to watch the commercials specially if your used to binge watch series on Netflix or similar. Probably best to wait air it on Netflix to binge watch it to avoid the hassle of commercials. Second reason was they cast a lot of famous celebrity including the ever gorgeous Karla Avellana, mother of the Armstrong brothers. It would be a drag to see her get killed on the 2nd episode of the anime so the writers have to find a way to prolong her character in the series. I agree that the CGI are pretty much a home run but acting wise, its like a watching an 80s Sentai show which was far more better IMO. Someone noticed that there might be a hint that one of the pilot might have the chance or tendency to become a Broke Back mountain character. Probably because Mark Gordon was a cowboy like character in the anime and thus the writer decided to concluded that cowboys + Broke Back Mountain = a LGBTQRSTUV kinda thing, you know something to please the woke fans. Which remind me of the Voltron Netflix ending which disgruntled most of the Voltron fans. I hope Voltes V doesnt turned out to be the same faith the Voltron Netflix ended. Otherwise it will a horrible nightmares to OG Voltes V fans. To sum up I have been watching it on and off. I am still hoping that future episodes will turned out at least OK but judging the slowness phase it will be uphill torture for me to watch the entirety of the series. |
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