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Post by mazingazeto on Nov 7, 2008 13:59:33 GMT -5
By chance it's made of die-cast because it looks like a $10 toy... It looks excellent! Exactly like the anime. I think you need to just concentrate on getting the 1970's Godaikin and Popy figures. You know, the ones that look like anything but the actual robots in the series, but do shoot their fists and missiles.
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Post by 00silvergt on Nov 7, 2008 14:24:55 GMT -5
By chance it's made of die-cast because it looks like a $10 toy... So, a little metal here and there would transform this toy from a $10 toy to a $100 toy? Wow, don't we have a little tunnel vision. Do you realize that most SHE toys are ABS/Styrene/Resin? Those can run you over $500. To me if the sculpt is dead on, if it captures the essence of the anime, then it has value. $10? Come on...the base alone is worth that.
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Post by Dead-Man on Nov 7, 2008 16:25:53 GMT -5
For those curious about the Diecast content of GX-44: Not bad at all! yes it does have metal content as shown in here.
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Post by 00silvergt on Nov 7, 2008 16:27:48 GMT -5
For those curious about the Diecast content of GX-44: Not bad at all! yes it does have metal content as shown in here. Well, there you go Megaoptimus...should we wrap this up for you? Would that be cash or charge?
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Post by megatroptimus on Nov 7, 2008 16:48:03 GMT -5
If it was all plastic, yes, not worth more than $10. That robot practically has no detailing, just round parts. I guess only the high die-cast content (and the couple accessories) justifies the price tag because it doesn't have any more articulation or gimmicks than a $5 GI Joe figure.
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Post by REX-203 on Nov 7, 2008 17:12:16 GMT -5
Megatroptimus, have you experienced SOC personally? Just asking honestly and politely, so please no offense intended. If you haven't, well, the quality of the craftmanship, down to the immaculate paint finishes, set the par for modern gokin standards. Even if they made these out of 100% plastic, but were crafted the same way, they'd be worth no less than $20 or $30 each. The price for the double set is very much within reason.
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Post by megatroptimus on Nov 7, 2008 17:17:11 GMT -5
I own SOC Voltes V, Combattler V, Zambot 3, Ideon, Gunbuster, Iron Gear, Reideen, Godmars, Walker Gallia, Xabungle, Gold Lightan, Grendizer (S version), Daimos, Leopaldon, Dancougar, Daiku Maryu, King Joe and Baikanfu. And in the same style, I own CM's Brave Gokin Star Gaogaigar, God Raijin Oh, Sankan Oh, Gyakuten Oh and MP Voltron.
So yes, I have experienced SOC personally. You can't compare any of the figures I mentionned with the one discussed in this thread. GX-44 doesn't transform, has very few moving parts (or total parts, for that matter). Sure it's anime correct and nice to look at, but that's pretty much all it has to offer, look.
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Post by REX-203 on Nov 7, 2008 17:22:56 GMT -5
Hehe, nice collection! Ok, just thought I'd ask. Well, I suppose it's all about opinion, after all. Personally, I am very excited about this release though. All those pics aren't making the wait any easier either.
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Post by megatroptimus on Nov 7, 2008 17:33:12 GMT -5
Didn't the original toy have some kind of built-in elevator in one leg of something? And some kind of control room in the chest?
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Post by REX-203 on Nov 7, 2008 17:35:16 GMT -5
Yes, the original toy had lots of gimmicks, and was HUGE! Also, instead of being diecast, the metal parts were made of pressed steel! VERY impressive, and no question as to why it's the holy grail of vintage gokin toys.
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Post by KingboyD on Nov 7, 2008 17:37:48 GMT -5
I own SOC Voltes V, Combattler V, Zambot 3, Ideon, Gunbuster, Iron Gear, Reideen, Godmars, Walker Gallia, Xabungle, Gold Lightan, Grendizer (S version), Daimos, Leopaldon, Dancougar, Daiku Maryu, King Joe and Baikanfu. And in the same style, I own CM's Brave Gokin Star Gaogaigar, God Raijin Oh, Sankan Oh, Gyakuten Oh and MP Voltron. So yes, I have experienced SOC personally. You can't compare any of the figures I mentionned with the one discussed in this thread. GX-44 doesn't transform, has very few moving parts (or total parts, for that matter). Sure it's anime correct and nice to look at, but that's pretty much all it has to offer, look. So, based on your list, it seems quite obvious that you only like figures that transform. But Grendy doesn't really transform, unless you consider collapsing legs. Not much of a transformation there. What is your opinion on that? And I assume you look down on the Mazingers and all the other non-transforming bots, too? I'm not trying to be critical. Just trying to understand your point of view. Maybe you just don't have an affinity for the "character" (if a robot can be called a character). This is a much beloved character, and I personally believe that they did a great job on this figure. I would be hard pressed to find a vintage collector who would not admire this toy for what is represents and how it was done. Don't forget, this is the Soul of Chogokin line. By definition, its meant to provide an homage to the old-school toys. If you were never into the vintage stuff, maybe this just wouldn't appeal to you.
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Post by KingboyD on Nov 7, 2008 17:41:19 GMT -5
Didn't the original toy have some kind of built-in elevator in one leg of something? And some kind of control room in the chest? I think the point you are making is that the vintage one had gimmicks, while this doesn't. However, there were two other smaller chogokin toys made of this robot that were much simpler. While the Chokinzoku is perhaps the most well known, it was not the only one. Based on how this SOC line addressed the other bots, such as the Mazingers (who, like T-28, had firing fists and missile launchers in the chest in the vintage ones), this is consistent with the line.
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Post by eriku on Nov 7, 2008 17:43:12 GMT -5
I stopped paying attention at the comparison to a GI Joe figure.
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Post by zman on Nov 7, 2008 17:49:11 GMT -5
If the silver part is the diecast, why did they have to skip the diecast on the legs/feet of Black Ox? Why not make them the same way?
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Post by Chen on Nov 7, 2008 18:11:14 GMT -5
Probably cost, you can only get Black Ox when you buy the two-pack while you can get Tetsujin either single or not. Bandai knows they'll probably sell more Tetsujin's than Black Ox's so they didn't spend the extra tooling costs to make Black Ov's lower legs metal.
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Post by megatroptimus on Nov 7, 2008 19:11:35 GMT -5
But Grendy doesn't really transform, unless you consider collapsing legs. Not much of a transformation there. What is your opinion on that? And I assume you look down on the Mazingers and all the other non-transforming bots, too? He's an exception because it's the show I grew up to before I got introduced to Transformers. And Grendizer sorta combines with other ships anyway.
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Post by megatroptimus on Nov 7, 2008 19:13:49 GMT -5
I stopped paying attention at the comparison to a GI Joe figure. So you read the post in full because "GI Joe figure" were the last 3 words. LOL
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Post by megatroptimus on Nov 7, 2008 19:16:28 GMT -5
I think the point you are making is that the vintage one had gimmicks, while this doesn't. However, there were two other smaller chogokin toys made of this robot that were much simpler. While the Chokinzoku is perhaps the most well known, it was not the only one. Based on how this SOC line addressed the other bots, such as the Mazingers (who, like T-28, had firing fists and missile launchers in the chest in the vintage ones), this is consistent with the line. Isn't it more because the line needs to alternate bigger/gimmicky/expensive figures and smaller/less gimmicky/inexpensive figures? For every Godmars it seems we get a Jeeg or something...
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Post by Chen on Nov 7, 2008 19:43:00 GMT -5
Well it's easy to see where your tastes are which is cool. But if you've never owned or played with one of the "standard" SOC's then I think your missing out on something. Sure they don't transform or anything but figures like Mazinger Z or Tetsujin are just plain cool. Hell GX-01R is STILL one of my favorite SOC's and for around $50 bucks you should give it a try.
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Post by eriku on Nov 7, 2008 21:43:45 GMT -5
I stopped paying attention at the comparison to a GI Joe figure. So you read the post in full because "GI Joe figure" were the last 3 words. LOL What I meant was I stopped reading your posts after that. Wait...D'OH!!!
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