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Post by dricks2080 on Aug 3, 2006 7:51:51 GMT -5
Nice pics! Now you see why I've been complaining that the GX-13R was a rip-off?... Anyway, still... I kinda wanna have the GX-13 re-issue...
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Post by nikodiablo on Aug 3, 2006 19:43:31 GMT -5
Well, I kinda thought the color scheme for the original GX-13 is better than the repainted version. So you're not gonna send your GX-13R to me dricks?!
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Post by mannyD on Aug 3, 2006 21:06:49 GMT -5
hehe GX-13 rules baby!!! and GX-13R looks good too
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Post by nickgreat on Aug 4, 2006 3:44:33 GMT -5
I'm waiting to get the Dancougar reissue myself. Just curious; How does GX13's height compare to Voltes V?
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Post by 45caliber on Aug 4, 2006 8:26:36 GMT -5
almost the same size if wings(dancougar's) are not attached...
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Post by dricks2080 on Aug 4, 2006 16:22:11 GMT -5
actually, dancouga's taller than voltes v.. more massive than voltes v as well... regardless of wether or not the booster wing is attached.
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Post by xiombarg on Aug 4, 2006 21:33:54 GMT -5
I kind of hope they do some improvements also, and I can't imagine they wouldn't just to try and boost sales for those who already have the current version.
But if Bandai pulls an Aoshima and makes an "improvement" by putting in some stupid little PVC gimmicky figure or paint the kneecaps a different color, I'll be pissed off. That would be so lame.
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Post by dricks2080 on Aug 5, 2006 7:09:33 GMT -5
i agree... dancouga's a pretty impressive toy... only he's as fragile, if not, more fragile than a lego set. if they could only do something about his head being secured more and apply more diecast on his arms and legs, that would be awesome and i wouldn't mind shelling out another $400-$500 for that... at least, it's money worth spending... damn, i still can't believe i spent that much on a re-painted version... i was totally jipped...
and yeah, for those of you who wants to bash me because you say that it's a "limited version"... you know what... say no more because i really don't give a shiites... no matter what you say or however you want to defend your argument... a paint is a paint... there's no difference... the fact that they jacked up the price just because they painted it differently, is just a horrible marketing idea... so anyone wishing to get one, just settle on the original gx-13 and spend the other 2 or 300 dollars on another toy... perhaps another gx-31 or for the upcoming gunbuster or any other line for that matter... TRUST ME PEOPLE!!! don't fall for the same mistake as i did! be wise, not just smart!
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Post by ataru on Aug 5, 2006 7:42:37 GMT -5
dricks2080, it's not a horrible marketing idea. They sold every piece they made, easily. If they made it cheaper they just would have made less money!
The thing is, some people bought the limited version because the colors are more like the old toy and parts of the tv series. I don't blame them. Buying it just because it's different and because you want every SOC is another matter, but that's ok too as long as everyone knows what they're getting into. Me? I only bought the normal version, and I'm satisfied with it.
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Post by mannyD on Aug 5, 2006 7:48:35 GMT -5
... no matter what you say or however you want to defend your argument... a paint is a paint... there's no difference... hmm, i think there is. we have the snow white aflodai, black boss borot, GX-01RB, GX-01 iron castle version, and so on. the paint sometimes makes a big difference
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Post by dricks2080 on Aug 7, 2006 15:59:39 GMT -5
dricks2080, it's not a horrible marketing idea. They sold every piece they made, easily. If they made it cheaper they just would have made less money! The thing is, some people bought the limited version because the colors are more like the old toy and parts of the tv series. I don't blame them. Buying it just because it's different and because you want every SOC is another matter, but that's ok too as long as everyone knows what they're getting into. Me? I only bought the normal version, and I'm satisfied with it. i'm not saying they should make it cheaper.. $220 for a 15 inch toy is already a lot of money to shell out. that's already more than twice the amount as the old godaikin lines when i purchased them years ago... and they were all heavy and 90% diecast metal... however, details weren't paid much attention to.. but still... all i'm saying... if they're going to jack up the price... at least do more than just "repainting" the current line... maybe throw a little more accesories with a stand... maybe make the sword and the guns diecast metal.... i don't know.... but geez... $150+ more for a repainted version? are you f***ing kidding me?
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Post by dricks2080 on Aug 7, 2006 16:16:26 GMT -5
... no matter what you say or however you want to defend your argument... a paint is a paint... there's no difference... hmm, i think there is. we have the snow white aflodai, black boss borot, GX-01RB, GX-01 iron castle version, and so on. the paint sometimes makes a big difference ok... let's go back to the basics... what is paint made out of?.. here.. PIGMENTS Provide color and hiding; some are used to impart bulk at relatively low cost BINDER "binds" the pigment together, and provides film integrity and adhesion LIQUID (or the "carrier")provides desired consistency and makes it possible to apply the pigment and binder to the surface being painted ADDITIVES low-level ingredients that provide specific paint properties such as mildew resistance, defoaming and good flow and leveling what's the difference between paints? COLOR PIGMENTS... and that, my friend, is how i arrived at the conclusion that a paint is a paint... just like people have skins... except the pigments in our skin is what separates us... therefore, a skin is a skin... anyway, those are the exact ingredients of the paints they used on the SOC lines (actually, that applies to whatever paint you buy at a hardware store or where have you)... if you really sit down and think about how different a GX-13 compared to a GX-13R is, really, there are no difference.... same weight, same height, same accessories, transformations... blah, blah, blah!!! and now go ahead and ask yourself... is it really worth spending extra $150 for a "repainted" version of the current line? what if i gave you a choice... if you had to spend an extra $150+ on a dancouga toy... which one would you rather spend it on? A) A repainted version of the current line... or B) No paint changes, however, extra diecast, extra accessories included... or C) save my $150 and get another SOC, another GX-31 probably... MY ANALYSIS: if your answer is A - well, you and i are fools... since i bought the repainted version instead.. if your answer is either B or C... then your kung fu is strong and that you're wise enough to learn from the fools who chose letter A i rest my case!
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Post by mannyD on Aug 7, 2006 21:37:35 GMT -5
...what's the difference between paints? COLOR PIGMENTS... and that, my friend, is how i arrived at the conclusion that a paint is a paint... just like people have skins... except the pigments in our skin is what separates us... therefore, a skin is a skin... anyway, those are the exact ingredients of the paints they used on the SOC lines (actually, that applies to whatever paint you buy at a hardware store or where have you)... if you really sit down and think about how different a GX-13 compared to a GX-13R is, really, there are no difference.... same weight, same height, same accessories, transformations... blah, blah, blah!!! hmm, i don't think so... tis simply just a matter of supply and demand. if bandai produce a repainted unit, say like the rare GX-01RB, at the minimum number of units. for sure it will be sought after by collectors, and for sure the price will jack up. how much does the GX-01RB go for these days? can you say to the one who bought the GX-01RB, say for $1500, that it is just a repainted version? that you can do better if you go to the hardware store, buy paint, and paint for yourself a GX-01RB? dude, like i said, what's the fuzz? what's the rip-off? hehe tis just the way these things are before buying, you can read reviews or threads bout the bot ur interested with they usually tell you bout the diecast (and plastic) content. articulation and accessories. major features and weak points. original or repainted versions. limited and rare versions. and so on etcetera then decide from then on. life made simple. IMO
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Post by ataru on Aug 8, 2006 12:43:57 GMT -5
Actually dricks, the gx-13r was the same cost as the gx-13. The price has been marked up since because of supply and demand.
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Post by dricks2080 on Aug 8, 2006 13:27:32 GMT -5
well, the gx-13R was retailed $150.00 more initially when it was advertised. that's all i'm saying.. i mean... really, suppose you were to buy a brand new bmw (or whatever car you like) and the price between a metallic silver and glossy red is 68% greater than the other... now, disregarding supply and demand, can you really look me in the eye and tell me that you'll spend 68% more on the same car that you would have gotten for 68% less? i'm just saying... if bandai was going to replicate the exact color of dancouga in the cartoons... then why didn't they do that in the first place? i didn't see voltes v put out in the market with colors green and black... and come out later with blue and red... you see what i mean? that's why i still think it was a rip off and i feel bad for those who bought it simply because it was a different color.... dude... we can dance all day everyday if you really want to prove that my point is wrong... tell you what... why don't you grab both the gx-13 and the gx-13R... if you have them already, then more power to you... but really, before you respond to me, go ahead and take a sit in your little chair and observe both toys side by side... tell me exactly the difference between the two, while you disregard the paint... and i dare you to look straight into your mom's or your dad's or you significant other's eyes and tell them that you'd spend 68% more on things you would have gotten for 68% less... but before you do that, go get yourself a video camera and record yourself as you do all these and post it on U-Tube and then and only then, you'll get my point...
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Post by dricks2080 on Aug 8, 2006 13:29:06 GMT -5
Actually dricks, the gx-13r was the same cost as the gx-13. The price has been marked up since because of supply and demand. no it wasn't... it was already retailed at $150.00 more before it even came out...and they only produced 5,000 of them, i think...
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Post by ataru on Aug 8, 2006 13:52:47 GMT -5
Yes it was. It had 2 prices- one was a bit cheaper if you bought it at the show, the other was a bit more expensive if you got it through a website later on. Although the site that had the special thing going on with bandai sold out and removed their page a long time ago, there are many remaining pages that have "sold out" on them that have it listed at prices like 23100 yen with tax included. Compare this to the price of 20,790 yen without tax included for the normal Dancougar.
Sure, retailers in other countries may have marked it up right from the start, but you can't blame bandai for that.
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Post by mannyD on Aug 9, 2006 7:05:08 GMT -5
well, the gx-13R was retailed $150.00 more initially when it was advertised. that's all i'm saying.. i mean... really, suppose you were to buy a brand new bmw (or whatever car you like) and the price between a metallic silver and glossy red is 68% greater than the other... now, disregarding supply and demand, can you really look me in the eye and tell me that you'll spend 68% more on the same car that you would have gotten for 68% less? i'm just saying... if bandai was going to replicate the exact color of dancouga in the cartoons... then why didn't they do that in the first place? i didn't see voltes v put out in the market with colors green and black... and come out later with blue and red... you see what i mean? that's why i still think it was a rip off and i feel bad for those who bought it simply because it was a different color.... dude... we can dance all day everyday if you really want to prove that my point is wrong... tell you what... why don't you grab both the gx-13 and the gx-13R... if you have them already, then more power to you... but really, before you respond to me, go ahead and take a sit in your little chair and observe both toys side by side... tell me exactly the difference between the two, while you disregard the paint... and i dare you to look straight into your mom's or your dad's or you significant other's eyes and tell them that you'd spend 68% more on things you would have gotten for 68% less... but before you do that, go get yourself a video camera and record yourself as you do all these and post it on U-Tube and then and only then, you'll get my point... wha? ...ur right dude, this is pointless hehe curse you bhandai... you have every right to get mad. you got GX-13R at $450 okay back to topic... curse you dankugah! (j/k)
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Post by dricks2080 on Aug 9, 2006 7:46:52 GMT -5
well, the gx-13R was retailed $150.00 more initially when it was advertised. that's all i'm saying.. i mean... really, suppose you were to buy a brand new bmw (or whatever car you like) and the price between a metallic silver and glossy red is 68% greater than the other... now, disregarding supply and demand, can you really look me in the eye and tell me that you'll spend 68% more on the same car that you would have gotten for 68% less? i'm just saying... if bandai was going to replicate the exact color of dancouga in the cartoons... then why didn't they do that in the first place? i didn't see voltes v put out in the market with colors green and black... and come out later with blue and red... you see what i mean? that's why i still think it was a rip off and i feel bad for those who bought it simply because it was a different color.... dude... we can dance all day everyday if you really want to prove that my point is wrong... tell you what... why don't you grab both the gx-13 and the gx-13R... if you have them already, then more power to you... but really, before you respond to me, go ahead and take a sit in your little chair and observe both toys side by side... tell me exactly the difference between the two, while you disregard the paint... and i dare you to look straight into your mom's or your dad's or you significant other's eyes and tell them that you'd spend 68% more on things you would have gotten for 68% less... but before you do that, go get yourself a video camera and record yourself as you do all these and post it on U-Tube and then and only then, you'll get my point... wha? ...ur right dude, this is pointless hehe curse you bhandai... you have every right to get mad. you got GX-13R at $450 okay back to topic... curse you dankugah! (j/k) finally... whew... now you see my point... i was just saying bro, hehehe!!!! ok dude! until next time... hehehe!!
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Post by dricks2080 on Aug 9, 2006 7:49:50 GMT -5
Yes it was. It had 2 prices- one was a bit cheaper if you bought it at the show, the other was a bit more expensive if you got it through a website later on. Although the site that had the special thing going on with bandai sold out and removed their page a long time ago, there are many remaining pages that have "sold out" on them that have it listed at prices like 23100 yen with tax included. Compare this to the price of 20,790 yen without tax included for the normal Dancougar. Sure, retailers in other countries may have marked it up right from the start, but you can't blame bandai for that. well, it was cheaper at the show because people must have paid top dollar just to get into the show... that's why it was cheaper then..
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