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Post by droutmaster on Sept 8, 2010 2:25:11 GMT -5
non of those works, even if Grendizer is strong there is no way to really know who is more powerful in the end. Just because people are trying to base the results on animes, mangas, games or bibles is the biggest mistake they are doing. for this to actually work, both need to be on the same universe on the same place. Also if Mazinkaiser's Output and Full Power are not in the description then its invalid which it makes its stats all wrong and incomplete not to mention they forgot to add the resistance of both metals and the weaknesses of both machines.
btw where did you get those bandai cards and are there anymore?
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Post by DUKE 77 on Sept 8, 2010 11:33:16 GMT -5
Soon, I will update the image above and mention the props. of both alloys, etc... I am also doing my best to find out the HP output of Mazinkaiser...but for now, I just added the output of Dizer just for your info. I am sorry, I didn't get the Bandai cards from its official site! I got 'em from Arabic super robot forums as Mexat.com The series that are included in the Dynamic Crusade Set are Mazinger Z, Kaiser, SKL, Devilman, Cutey Honey, Getter Robo and Shin Getter Robo.Can anyone tell me where I can download this book from please: www.hlj.com/product/MEF30300  |
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Sept 8, 2010 15:42:53 GMT -5
I appreciate the input. Keeping in mind that we are discussing cartoons here, I must bring this up... While I don't have the time to upload the video clip right now but, in the last Mazinkaiser OVA Dr. Yumi says "Mazinkaiser's power is infinite".
Infinite is greater than any number ever shown. Case closed.
That's information straight from the anime, not from toy companies or whatnots.
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Post by Chen on Sept 8, 2010 15:48:00 GMT -5
Arguing about Super Robots is like arguing about Super Heroes there's really no point. Anyways Grendizer and Mazinkaiser would team up to kick butt not fight each other. I did this pic years ago and it's pretty crappy now but I dream of a Grendizer/Mazinkaiser team up OVA.
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Post by droutmaster on Sept 8, 2010 15:57:45 GMT -5
Soon, I will update the image above and mention the props. of both alloys, etc... I am also doing my best to find out the HP output of Mazinkaiser...but for now, I just added the output of Dizer just for your info. I am sorry, I didn't get the Bandai cards from its official site! I got 'em from Arabic super robot forums as Mexat.com The series that are included in the Dynamic Crusade Set are Mazinger Z, Kaiser, SKL, Devilman, Cutey Honey, Getter Robo and Shin Getter Robo.Can anyone tell me where I can download this book from please: www.hlj.com/product/MEF30300 are there anymore pics of those cards? i would like to have them. See, this are things that look awesome and yet we don't get this kind of stuff, dang it! As for the book you are asking, i use to have it in the old pc but again i lost it including with a english translated Mazinger Bible and the Dynamic Heroes e-mangas  . now im searching them again.  Arguing about Super Robots is like arguing about Super Heroes there's really no point. Anyways Grendizer and Mazinkaiser would team up to kick butt not fight each other. I did this pic years ago and it's pretty crappy now but I dream of a Grendizer/Mazinkaiser team up OVA. QFT, besides stats don't mean anything much because in the end, the animes makes them look and act differently than what its said. im expecting a remake of the Great Mazinger Grendizer and Getter Robo G vs the Sea Monster but instead with Grendizer or Shin Great Mazinger, Mazinkaiser and Shin Getter Robo. |
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Sept 8, 2010 17:41:53 GMT -5
Arguing about Super Robots is like arguing about Super Heroes there's really no point. I know, but it's fun! Makes me feel like an 8 year old kid again!!! }D |
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Post by MechaShiva on Sept 8, 2010 18:35:28 GMT -5
The physics in those cartoon universes are about as stable as Mel Gibson.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Sept 8, 2010 18:52:44 GMT -5
Yes they are! That's why I have so much fun in these type of silly debates. It's like a game of UNO!!! You just got to love the fans of these cartoons...!
}D
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Post by DUKE 77 on Sept 8, 2010 18:53:19 GMT -5
Arguing about Super Robots is like arguing about Super Heroes there's really no point. Anyways Grendizer and Mazinkaiser would team up to kick butt not fight each other. I did this pic years ago and it's pretty crappy now but I dream of a Grendizer/Mazinkaiser team up OVA. Nice sketch, bro! Me too...I want to see both Kaiser and Dizer in one OVA. I think it will happen one day! There should not be arguing about facts and numbers IMO. Like you can't say that 30 meters is shorter than 23 meters...or firepower 600,000 is weaker than firepower 400,000. Mechas are machines (like cars)...there is no chance for a 1982 Fiat vs a 2010 BMW  |
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Sept 8, 2010 19:10:55 GMT -5
Arguing about Super Robots is like arguing about Super Heroes there's really no point. Anyways Grendizer and Mazinkaiser would team up to kick butt not fight each other. I did this pic years ago and it's pretty crappy now but I dream of a Grendizer/Mazinkaiser team up OVA. Nice sketch, bro! Me too...I want to see both Kaiser and Dizer in one OVA. I think it will happen one day! There should not be arguing about facts and numbers IMO. Like you can't say that 30 meters is shorter than 23 meters...or firepower 600,000 is weaker than firepower 400,000. Mechas are machines (like cars)...there is no chance for a 1982 Fiat vs a 2010 BMW Who's arguing? As far as I know "INFINITE" beats 600,000... right? There's no arguing that... Oh man, the comeback for that one is going to be fun!!! }D |
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Post by DUKE 77 on Sept 8, 2010 21:30:46 GMT -5
btw Boss Borot is the strongest  Yeah, Boss Borot is a bad@$$  LOL! Nice sketch, bro! Me too...I want to see both Kaiser and Dizer in one OVA. I think it will happen one day! There should not be arguing about facts and numbers IMO. Like you can't say that 30 meters is shorter than 23 meters...or firepower 600,000 is weaker than firepower 400,000. Mechas are machines (like cars)...there is no chance for a 1982 Fiat vs a 2010 BMW Who's arguing? As far as I know "INFINITE" beats 600,000... right? There's no arguing that... Oh man, the comeback for that one is going to be fun!!! }D A'A'... we better not bring "unconfirmed words" from the movies cuz we all know that movies are made as independent works! Does Kaiser get his sword out from the chest or the shoulders? etc... 1 - Kaiser's cockpit was broken (in the OVA). 2 - Dizer full power is 20,000,000 HP not 600,000. 3 - Infinite doesn't mean [828] (see the Bandai Dynamic Crusade cards) ;D I am pretty sure if Grendizer is on these cards...it won't be less than 830 minimum. How could we compare an alien-made super robot by a civilization that is beyond ours by light years to a super robot made in a hidden basement by a Japanese scientist? Also, Go Nagai himself said that the Space Alloy Gren's durability is unmatched to any materiel in the UNIVERSE. Hello! |
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Sept 8, 2010 21:45:10 GMT -5
Those cards information is pretty much worthless. None of that stuff was ever mentioned in the OVAs. You say that alien material and technology is better than Earth's. Once again you're speculating as that was never mentioned in any anime. Let me give you a few examples that prove those words wrong: Daimos, Gaiking, Baldios, Combattler, Voltes V, Zambot, etc... Get it? What is in the video/ anime is the only correct information. Everything else is just speculation from fans. You also mentioned unconfirmed dialog... Sorry dude, it is very confirmed. Maybe I'll take the time to upload the clip one of these days.
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Post by droutmaster on Sept 8, 2010 22:41:39 GMT -5
thnx for some of the cards dammage7, my sister loves the Shin Getter and she wants to now if by any chance are there more of the Getter Robos or only Shin getter types. themazinger, dammage7 is not using the cards as comparison, i requested them if they where more. Besides everyone know there is no true king of the strongest, except Boss Borot of course which he is the true king. i think the debate is a bit out of hand, so how about we stop it and leave it that Kaiser and grendizer are twin brothers and they just like to show off ;D ;D |
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Post by magengar on Sept 9, 2010 11:24:28 GMT -5
Oh man, I know debating can be fun sometimes. But really I hope this doesn't get outta hand. In the first place, as fans, we're all curious to see how these super-robots would look standing next to one-another in a line-up. Also, it's fun to see their Stats-- what powers and abilities they have, their output power, their fueling power, repair process, pilot specs, and so forth. So, this is basicly a rough way of looking at the info on the backside of the trading cards of our favorite super-robot characters... we get that same excitement from Pokemon cards, and Dungeons-n-Dragons games. I personally don't care if any robot can pull humongous swords out of his breasteses while another can sneeze moons outta his azz and another can fist-fk gods. .......LOL! ;D To me, each super-robot has something unique and special to offer; and each one does things in some special way to get their missions accomplished. I may not be a fan of every single one of them; but at least I get to enjoy the amusement. zozo-Magengar |
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Post by DUKE 77 on Sept 9, 2010 13:23:38 GMT -5
GUYS,
I JUST FOUND LOTS OF SCANS FOR THE "LEGEND OF IRON" CARDS HERE! Enjoy!
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Post by magengar on Sept 9, 2010 14:53:08 GMT -5
Wow, those cards look HOT!!!
Thanks for the scans, bro!
So, is Bandai releasing these cards as a set of some kind?
If so, when and where will they be available?
zozo-Magengar
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Post by DUKE 77 on Sept 9, 2010 15:20:15 GMT -5
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Post by droutmaster on Sept 9, 2010 15:32:10 GMT -5
sweet, this card set have 3 versions of Mazinger Z, Toei version, Kaiser version and the Shin version. there some pics of the cards that sometimes on my head is trying to say fake, but i cant say at all if its true or not. I wonder why there no Great Mazinger cards, Getter Robo G, Grendizer and Energer Z, perhaps there not out yet?
Thnx for the card pics dammage7
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Post by DUKE 77 on Sept 9, 2010 17:10:55 GMT -5
I wonder why there no Great Mazinger cards, Getter Robo G, Grendizer and Energer Z, perhaps there not out yet? This is Dynamic Crusade Vol. 1 Kurogane no Densetsu (Legend of Iron). Let's wait for Vol.2 |
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Post by magengar on Sept 9, 2010 17:46:31 GMT -5
@ dammage7: Dude, YOU iz da MAN! THAAAAANX!
I'll check out them cards. They remind me of the early
picture-perfect Mazinger-Z trading cards which were
popular in Spain back in the late-'70s.
Awesome!
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