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Post by magengar on Jun 30, 2014 2:08:46 GMT -5
Force Five - Grandizer (UFO Robot Grendizer)
(youtube video)
Got it, Thanks! I used a Firefox plugin to download it so I can watch it offline! zozo-mag
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Post by tetsuryu on Jul 5, 2014 1:41:13 GMT -5
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Jul 5, 2014 4:54:59 GMT -5
Wow... and this guy watched the 46-episode series released in America, not even the complete series of 92 episodes like me! He makes some good points. But Mazinger Z is a product of its time, and with such a long-running show you can't expect the staff to make new drawings and everything for each episode. I watched it with this in mind, and enjoyed it all the way to the end
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Jul 5, 2014 13:53:20 GMT -5
Well, the show is from 1972. The reviewer is a dumbass that was probably expecting something in the lines of Getter Robot Armaggedon, SRWOG, or Gurren Lagann. Just proves how many imbecils are out there reviewing anime. }D
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Post by tetsuryu on Jul 5, 2014 14:07:55 GMT -5
Well, the show is from 1972. The reviewer is a dumbass that was probably expecting something in the lines of Getter Robot Armaggedon, SRWOG, or Gurren Lagann. Just proves how many imbecils are out there reviewing anime. Apparently his review of Cutie Honey was pretty much the same.
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Post by RoboFestivus on Jul 7, 2014 10:18:11 GMT -5
I loved watching Mazinger Z in the 80s, but this part of the review made me laugh out loud: "Several times Mazinger is almost defeated because Koji's windshield gets mucked up and he has no windshield wipers. Honest to god. Dr. Kabuto is a technological genius and he forgot windshield wipers. Dr. Yumi is a brilliant mechanic and yet he doesn't think of adding windshield wipers. The entire Institute can spend god knows how many yen and god knows how many man-hours building a flying apparatus for Mazinger and yet no one bolts on a pair of mother****ing windshield wipers."
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Post by magengar on Jul 8, 2014 16:06:05 GMT -5
Perhaps I oughtta go down there and meet that Reviewer in person, and jam a set of mother****ing windshield wipers into his skull to clear that foggy brain of his. lol Just kidding. He fails to realize this Maz series is an old show from the '70s. I have nothing against anyone of ANY age who does these anime reviews; but they should at least try to do some homework and try to approach it from a vintage perspective. It won't change much, though. And the folks who watch this will just have to think for themselves and draw their own conclusions. Of course, the younger generation today will try to watch this series expecting high-definition Ben 10 standard animation and artwork; but that isn't the case with the Mazinger-Z 1972 series....... ...we can buff it up in Hi-Def and BD all we want, and it will look good; but it's still an old anime series from 1972, no matter what. And whether I watch this series in its original classic format or on BD, it's still my favorite anime show. zozo-mag
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Post by RoboFestivus on Jul 9, 2014 10:11:50 GMT -5
From Wikipedia: Mazinger Z helped to create the 1970s boom in mecha anime.[9] The series is noteworthy for introducing many of the accepted stock features of super robot anime genres: the first occurrence of mecha robots being piloted by a user from within a cockpit,[10] the mechanical marvel that is the world's only hope, forgotten civilizations, power-hungry mad scientists, incompetent henchmen, lovable supporting characters (usually younger siblings, love interests, or friends of the hero), the scientist father or grandfather who loses his life heroically, and strangely clothed, eccentric or physically deformed villains (the intersex Baron Ashura as one example). Mazinger Z was also the first show to feature a female robot (Aphrodite A, piloted by female lead Sayaka Yumi), and a comic-relief robot made of spare parts and garbage named Boss Borot (which ended up suffering severe damage in nearly all of his appearances), after its pilot, brash yet simpleminded gang leader, Boss. The peculiarity about this super robot, differing from the ones in earlier robot manga, is that Kouji the pilot has to fly a smaller separate vehicle to combine with the robot (in Mazinger's case, the head). In comparison, previous robots were either autonomous (like Tetsuwan Atom/Astro Boy) or remote-controlled (like Tetsujin-28). An activation code is used to summon the robot and another used to actually activate it("MAJIN GO!" and "PILDER ON!" respectively). This typically signaled the start of an action sequence, and this method is still used in anime such as GaoGaiGar or Koutetsushin Jeeg. Manga and anime historians see the Pilder-Robot combination as the origin of the "transforming robot" genre, because it marks one of the first published examples in a manga of two distinctive vehicles forming a specific entity. This is often interpreted as the root of later series like GoLion, called Voltron, Defender of the Universe in the United States, the Transformers, and the giant robots in the Super Sentai Series (the basis for Power Rangers). Mazinger Z is not a vehicle that transforms into another shape, yet it requires the smaller vehicle to get going. Another characteristic is seen in the unusual use of Mazinger's formidable weaponry: Kouji would always announce with a shout the name of the super-power or attack he was about to use, including eye-fired energy beams, melting rays from the chestplates, gale-force winds, and the famous and oft-copied "Rocket Punch" attack. Most of these simple gimmicks were later incorporated in most of Nagai's robot series, and widely imitated in many other mecha shows. Although the roots of announcing the weapons can also be traced back to Toei's 1968 tokusatsu series, Giant Robo whose US title was Johnny Sokko And His Flying Robot, or even the way the heroes of chambara eiga and television used to announce their sword techniques before cutting down their opponents. However, the most notable characteristic that the show brought to the super robot genre was the relationship between machines and humans; Go Nagai established from the start the premise that machines and humans could act as one, and interact between each other. Since Kouji piloted the robot from the head, he acted as the robot's "brain," and almost every time Kouji would move, laugh, or suffer inside its cockpit, the robot would act the same, mimicking its pilot. Additionally, some minor characters included were cyborgs, that could act like humans, showing feelings and emotions (even crying). These ideas were used repeatedly in many similar shows (Grendizer, another Nagai work, would have the pilot suffer injury to his own body where the robot was attacked). In terms of plot, despite being simplistic in its portrait of good and evil characters, the show was able to stay fresh with young audiences with an irresistible mix of action, horror, comedy, and drama, sometimes all in one single episode. Some of them (especially after the introduction of the Boss Borot), were heavy on slapstick and jokes, even to the point of making fun of the hero and the villains; others carried strong melodramatic touches (this characteristic of heavy satire humor and melodrama were in fact staples of almost all of Go Nagai's creations in manga, even before their adaptations to the small screen). We also have a change in the concept of main female characters (already seen in Harenchi Gakuen, later reinforced in Cutie Honey), who were until then modeled after the "quiet, sweet, compliant" Japanese ideal: Kouji's partner and love interest Sayaka Yumi is tomboyish, loud and stubborn, very unlike the traditional heroines. Kouji Kabuto was not your usual hero of the time— he was a crass, arrogant, impulsive and hot-headed ne'er-do-well—who was the polar opposite of the virtuous Japanese males in the media. While Kouji's very outrageous and abhorrent behavior was very appealing to young boys, it was the bane of many establishment organizations, such as the Japanese PTA. Later sequels of the franchise share many characteristics of the Japanese tokusatsu heroes as well as 1970s kaiju films. The team-up anime Grendizer & Getter Robo G & Great Mazinger vs. The Giant Sea Monster is very similar to tokusatsu films like Godzilla vs. the Sea Monster. Mazinger Z also spawned the parody series, Panda Z, also by Nagai, in which the main characters of the original series are replaced by anthropomorphic animals. Mazinger also appears in the comedy OVA CB Chara Nagai Go World, where the main cast of the series is turned into super deformed parodistic alter-egos who are then sent on a wild caper across most of the Nagai's works (with encounters with Devilman's demons, Getter Robo, Violence Jack and others). In 2001, the Japanese magazine Animage elected Mazinger Z TV series the eleventh best anime production of all time.[11] Guillermo Del Toro has cited the show as an influence on Pacific Rim (film). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazinger_Z#Reception_and_influence
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Post by DUKE 77 on Jul 15, 2014 15:14:33 GMT -5
Whoaaa... Wanna share with you some rankings, guys, through those screenshots: - 1) The Mazinger canon thread (even when it's slowly updated recently) is one of the most viewed topic on Robot-Japan! 2) In an IMDb ranking database, look who's on top? Yuppieee!!! #Proud.
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Jul 15, 2014 15:23:07 GMT -5
Is it me or did this IMDb rating pick quite a random selection of robots? Not even all super robots since the ol' Gundam is in there too. But come on: the Nagaian Trinity, that's absolutely fine. Getter robo, sure why not. Combattler, alright, where's Voltes then? Mazinkaiser SKL, what's he doin' here? Gurren Lagann, same question. And Gundam, not even specifying which model/series...
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Post by droutmaster on Jul 15, 2014 18:08:23 GMT -5
Is it me or did this IMDb rating pick quite a random selection of robots? Not even all super robots since the ol' Gundam is in there too. But come on: the Nagaian Trinity, that's absolutely fine. Getter robo, sure why not. Combattler, alright, where's Voltes then? Mazinkaiser SKL, what's he doin' here? Gurren Lagann, same question. And Gundam, not even specifying which model/series... is IDMB, they make the most random thing everytime.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Jul 16, 2014 0:12:01 GMT -5
LOL... Hey, hey, hey... No exagerations here: And then, if Grendizer is as famous world-wide as IDMB claims, why has it has not gotten a decent Bandai figure since February of 2000 (SRC version is not what I consider a decent figure), let alone any anime. Like I said, show someone a picture of Mazinger, and they will most likely know who it is (except USA), but do the same with a picture of Grendizer and half the world would say "Mazinger?". Can you please post the link of where IMDB posted those stats? I can't find it anywhere! }D
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Post by tetsuryu on Jul 16, 2014 3:53:47 GMT -5
Man, that IMDB ranking looks only slightly less poorly-thought out than it would be if it were made by IGN.
Instead of "Top 8 totally random mech shows" it'd be "Top 8 mech shows which also happen to be the only ones we've ever even heard of and you can bet your ass Evangelion and Gundam Wing will be the top two"
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Post by DUKE 77 on Jul 16, 2014 18:41:46 GMT -5
LOL... Hey, hey, hey... No exagerations here: And then, if Grendizer is as famous world-wide as IDMB claims, why has it has not gotten a decent Bandai figure since February of 2000 (SRC version is not what I consider a decent figure), let alone any anime. Like I said, show someone a picture of Mazinger, and they will most likely know who it is (except USA), but do the same with a picture of Grendizer and half the world would say "Mazinger?". Can you please post the link of where IMDB posted those stats? I can't find it anywhere! }D Hey, thanks for this correction...didn't notice this before! As for the IMDb, it's a fan database screenshot, he just listed some of the top mecha / robot / super robot shows according to each's ranking on the famous movie website. Cheers!
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Post by magengar on Jul 21, 2014 8:46:39 GMT -5
As long as I'm down with the Z, nothing else matters. zozo-mag
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Post by gravewolf on Aug 20, 2014 1:43:10 GMT -5
It seems like Go Nagai has made a new Grendizer named Grendizer Giga!
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Post by DUKE 77 on Aug 23, 2014 7:00:00 GMT -5
Grendizer Giga (manga)
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Post by RoboFestivus on Aug 23, 2014 10:06:26 GMT -5
From my personal experience, in Latin America, most people my age know exactly who Mazinger Z is. Some know that Great Mazinger is the robot who showed up briefly at the end of the last episode of Mazinger Z. Very few, if any at all, know who Grendizer is. I remember owning a small Grendizer figure in the early 80s, but I never knew who he was until I joined this forum in 2013. It all depends on where you are from and whether or not the shows made it to your country when you were a kid.
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Aug 23, 2014 19:56:33 GMT -5
From my personal experience, in Latin America, most people my age know exactly who Mazinger Z is. Some know that Great Mazinger is the robot who showed up briefly at the end of the last episode of Mazinger Z. Very few, if any at all, know who Grendizer is. I remember owning a small Grendizer figure in the early 80s, but I never knew who he was until I joined this forum in 2013. It all depends on where you are from and whether or not the shows made it to your country when you were a kid. Very true. Here in fact, in Italy, it's the opposite: anyone 30-40 years old know who Grendizer is, and even if everyone has heard of Mazinger Z at least once, more people remember Goldrake (Grendizer) as the forefather of all robots here. Mainly because it was aired before the Mazinger cartoon, hehe Speaking of Grendizer, that Grendizer Giga manga about to come out: they talked briefly about it in an italian website about manga and anime, saying that it'll be a reboot of the original manga (Go Nagai's one), the first chapter will be published on Champion RED, a Japanese monthly magazine were Shin Mazinger Zero VS Great General of Darkness is also published, then it mentions a new figure from Fewture (don't know if it's talking about that EX Gokin Grendizer) (ewww). Well, for fans of good ol' Grendy, I guess this could be nice to have on the shelf
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Post by DUKE 77 on Sept 20, 2014 19:17:19 GMT -5
[Summery] Go Nagai says:
- I was asked to do something different from Mazinger Z and Great Mazinger.
- I thought of creating a super robot that is not related to human-made.
- The reason UFO Robo Grendizer is stronger than Great Mazinger (who's stronger than Mazinger Z according to the anime) is that Grendizer is an alien-made.
- Duke Fleed and Grendizer are the saviors of Planet Earth.
- I am aware and happy how famous Grendizer is in Kuwait and the Middle East.
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