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Post by TheMazingerZ on Sept 20, 2014 20:58:25 GMT -5
... and then came Mazinkaiser, who is the GOD of all Super Robots. }D
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Post by droutmaster on Sept 20, 2014 21:52:19 GMT -5
i thought this was a new video talking about the new Grendizer manga, dang nabit dammage XD.
You know the sad part about the Grendizer anime is that even though his an alien made robot, there is not much about fighting in space. sure there is a couple of episodes here and there but more on the vicinity of between the earth and the moon areas but a lot of the times is fighting on earth. But i was expecting more along the lines like maybe going to other solar systems fighting vegan forces while freeing enslave colonies from King Vegan's dictatorship. thats my only nitpick with the anime, but other than that is a good show.
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Post by DUKE 77 on Sept 21, 2014 3:05:04 GMT -5
... and then came Mazinkaiser, who is the GOD of all Super Robots. }D Then, came Grendizer Giga who is the Giga God of All Super Robot Gods! Yet, Mazinkaiser is still the boss of the earth-made Mazin machine(s) not the alien-made Dizer machine, which Nagai stated they are superior than earth-made toys. To DM, Govarian had all his fights in outer space and the show didn't go big. Grendizer is the savior and protector of Planet Earth as Nagai said, so, it is logically to have the show fights mostly on earth! I see nothing sad.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Sept 21, 2014 12:01:39 GMT -5
Ejem... Through the years of SUper Robot anime, alien robots have been easily defeated by Earth made Super Robots. So, being an alien robot does not mean it is stronger than Earth made robots, like in the case of Mazinkaiser, Getters, Combattler, Voltes, Daimos, Gaiking, etc... }D
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Sept 21, 2014 12:35:10 GMT -5
It probably comes down to "This is the good robot, hence it is the strongest one" or something like that, you don't need much explanation for super robots If we want to try explaining it in a more logical way, well, Great Mazinger is stronger than Mazinger Z because it was built a few years later, improving upon the basic Mazinger Z design, and a new, more resistant material was used for its construction. We could think of Grendizer in the same way. Alien technology, way more advanced than ours, so Duke Fleed got himself a bigger, stronger and mightier robot than we "people of Terra" did.
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Post by magengar on Sept 21, 2014 13:23:41 GMT -5
i thought this was a new video talking about the new Grendizer manga, dang nabit dammage XD. You know the sad part about the Grendizer anime is that even though his an alien made robot, there is not much about fighting in space. sure there is a couple of episodes here and there but more on the vicinity of between the earth and the moon areas but a lot of the times is fighting on earth. But i was expecting more along the lines like maybe going to other solar systems fighting vegan forces while freeing enslave colonies from King Vegan's dictatorship. thats my only nitpick with the anime, but other than that is a good show. Classic super-robot anime shows are like old Godzilla movies: When it comes to alien invasions, monsters, robots and similar, everything Has to happen in Japan
... or else we wouldn't have this hobby. zozo-mag
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Post by droutmaster on Sept 21, 2014 16:09:10 GMT -5
... and then came Mazinkaiser, who is the GOD of all Super Robots. }D Then, came Grendizer Giga who is the Giga God of All Super Robot Gods! Yet, Mazinkaiser is still the boss of the earth-made Mazin machine(s) not the alien-made Dizer machine, which Nagai stated they are superior than earth-made toys. To DM, Govarian had all his fights in outer space and the show didn't go big. Grendizer is the savior and protector of Planet Earth as Nagai said, so, it is logically to have the show fights mostly on earth! I see nothing sad. you know what the irony of all this, GoNagai created another earth-robot which if what you say is correct that all earth robots are weaklings according to GoNagai, then he wasted time on making him in the first place or anyone for that matter. so could this mean that Grendizer GIGAMIX will finally be then end of all earth-robot? hmmm. If so then the heros of old are gone forever. Psycho Armor Govarian is considered a classical one and recommended by anyone to see it, the major flaw of the series which pretty much everyone agree is that is to short for everything that happens (its like 26 episodes where if been a 46 episodes at most it would've done a better job). Grendizer had the potential to have a story which would have been more different, more on the lines of space travel as oppose to be on Earth evertime like been treated another earth robot (stupid toie). Like Gattaiger for example, he reaches earths and then leaves to take the fight to the enemy and not put Earth and its people in more danger. Classic super-robot anime shows are like old Godzilla movies: When it comes to alien invasions, monsters, robots and similar, everything Has to happen in Japan
... or else we wouldn't have this hobby. zozo-mag lol, you know what the irony of this? even though Godzilla goes one time into space, he at least is taken to another planet with Rodan far away from the vicinity of Earth and the Moon in "Godzilla vs Monster Zero" movie. Grendizer never does go to another world outside of Earth's range, instead he stays and allow his problems to follow him putting the Earth and its people in danger everytime.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Sept 21, 2014 20:05:01 GMT -5
And the worst irony of all... Grendizer was an enemy mecha made for King Vega, stolen by a prince that was cowardly running away from his attack on Planet Fleed! No wonder Great Mazinger put an good ass-whooping on it in the movie, and Mazinger Z did the same in the Play Station Manga (as well as to all the Vegan enemies). And in Nagai's manga, Grendizer gets pretty damaged by Great Mazinger (all 3 did). Go Nagai is like a puta, who sells to the highest bidder. If he went to Latin America, he would say that Mazinger Z is the greatest. He goes with whatever the fans of the regions like best. TBH, I never liked Go Nagai's style much. My Mazingers are the ones from Toei... not Nagai's. }D
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Post by magengar on Sept 22, 2014 1:54:35 GMT -5
LOL...... Well, when you think about it, Grendy HAD to come to Earth and stay here to defend us from being invaded by the Vegans. The Vegans were conquering worlds on their quest to find a planet that would be suitable for their colonization (if I'm correct), and Earth was their target until they realized they finally found the fugitive Duke Fleed hiding here. At the same time, the Vegans would have to take back the UFO Grendizer. It's like, for example, TMZ stealing one of my best cars from the lot... ...I gotta go after him and get my car back, ya know! lol zozo-mag
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Post by S_Gokin on Sept 22, 2014 4:19:13 GMT -5
... and then came Mazinkaiser, who is the GOD of all Super Robots. }D Then, came Grendizer Giga who is the Giga God of All Super Robot Gods! Yet, Mazinkaiser is still the boss of the earth-made Mazin machine(s) not the alien-made Dizer machine, which Nagai stated they are superior than earth-made toys. To DM, Govarian had all his fights in outer space and the show didn't go big. Grendizer is the savior and protector of Planet Earth as Nagai said, so, it is logically to have the show fights mostly on earth! I see nothing sad. Hello my friend you forgot this bad boy Mazinkaizer skl Comparing grendizer with the regular mazinkaizer won’t be fair for grendizer because in the ova & the movie mazkaiser didn’t get a scratch unless if you count the damage in the cockpit from fighting Ashura robot, in the movie they shot him from the atmosphere to the earth & that’s was like a warm up to start chopping 9 Mechanical beasts, 2 generals (the 3rd one Escaped away after getting burned from fire blaster), a giant ship & finally Ankoku Daishogun to be honest he’s way to powerful , grendizer was holding up nicely until he got his arm cut off by king gory on the other hand mazinkaizer skl got a huge scar in his face by Galan Robot that cost him an eye but that made him looks tougher, so I guess it will be more reasonable to compare grendizer with mazinkaiser skl , and about grendizer giga we don’t know anything about his abilities yet he might still have the same abilities or he got upgraded from the old grendizer no conformation about this yet , & if u want to compare in manga not anime did u read shin mazinger zero ? did you see how powerful both of mazinger z & great mazinger got ? let’s not forget about shin getter robo there’s also other super robot not created by Go Nagai can be compared to grendizer, don’t get the wrong idea my friend I love grendizer too it’s just most of his fans make other super robots specially mazinger z look like tea boys comparing to him come on
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Post by chogokinabdul on Sept 22, 2014 5:52:04 GMT -5
Grendizer don't need a giga to be the most powerful super robot of the nagai creations! mazinkaiser is great and all and lovely and quite cute but ... leave defending earth to the King of space!! The King which was built by the collaboration of many waaay advanced technologies of many planets (the main project was planned by fleed top scientists and was executed by vega & allies top scientists and labs !! there is no room to compare him with any of the mazins!! it is un fair for them to be compared to the KING OF SPACE
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Sept 22, 2014 6:52:59 GMT -5
Heh, don't know if Grendizer is the strongest nagaian robot... Without going any further, look at Getter Robo. Slightly bigger than Grendizer, created to fight flawlessly on the ground, underground, underwater or flying in the atmosphere, has a wide range of attacks, and can "open get" to escape hazardous situations. Professor Saotome is a genius, I bet he could match the best Fleed minds in intelligence. He found out about the Getter Rays and how to harvest them and use them to power up Getter Robo. So I'd say... Grendizer and Getter Robo are very close together, if we talk about power and strength. But then we have Getter Robo G, which is a bit stronger than the first one. We have Shin Getter Robo, and Shin Getter Robo G (albeit this last one is quite obscure). And last but not least, Getter Emperor. Wait, do we count Getter Emperor as a nagaian creation? I hope so... anyway, the Emperor is pretty darn powerful. Probably the most powerful robot ever envisioned by Nagai-sensei. Counter arguments are welcome
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Post by chogokinabdul on Sept 22, 2014 8:25:22 GMT -5
Getters are great and advanced but they fail in terms of armor !! that is why they have the open get strategy !! while grendizer in armor (chogokin gren) beats them ! and adding to that the ability to travel faster than light !!
But yeah , both Grendizer and Getters are great.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Sept 22, 2014 8:43:02 GMT -5
Grendizer don't need a giga to be the most powerful super robot of the nagai creations! mazinkaiser is great and all and lovely and quite cute but ... leave defending earth to the King of space!! The King which was built by the collaboration of many waaay advanced technologies of many planets (the main project was planned by fleed top scientists and was executed by vega & allies top scientists and labs !! there is no room to compare him with any of the mazins!! it is un fair for them to be compared to the KING OF SPACE Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha...(infinite). Can't comment... my stomach aches too much from laughing...! }D
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Sept 22, 2014 8:51:25 GMT -5
Then, came Grendizer Giga who is the Giga God of All Super Robot Gods! Yet, Mazinkaiser is still the boss of the earth-made Mazin machine(s) not the alien-made Dizer machine, which Nagai stated they are superior than earth-made toys. To DM, Govarian had all his fights in outer space and the show didn't go big. Grendizer is the savior and protector of Planet Earth as Nagai said, so, it is logically to have the show fights mostly on earth! I see nothing sad. Hello my friend you forgot this bad boy Mazinkaizer skl Comparing grendizer with the regular mazinkaizer won’t be fair for grendizer because in the ova & the movie mazkaiser didn’t get a scratch unless if you count the damage in the cockpit from fighting Ashura robot, in the movie they shot him from the atmosphere to the earth & that’s was like a warm up to start chopping 9 Mechanical beasts, 2 generals (the 3rd one Escaped away after getting burned from fire blaster), a giant ship & finally Ankoku Daishogun to be honest he’s way to powerful , grendizer was holding up nicely until he got his arm cut off by king gory on the other hand mazinkaizer skl got a huge scar in his face by Galan Robot that cost him an eye but that made him looks tougher, so I guess it will be more reasonable to compare grendizer with mazinkaiser skl , and about grendizer giga we don’t know anything about his abilities yet he might still have the same abilities or he got upgraded from the old grendizer no conformation about this yet , & if u want to compare in manga not anime did u read shin mazinger zero ? did you see how powerful both of mazinger z & great mazinger got ? let’s not forget about shin getter robo there’s also other super robot not created by Go Nagai can be compared to grendizer, don’t get the wrong idea my friend I love grendizer too it’s just most of his fans make other super robots specially mazinger z look like tea boys comparing to him come on Great comparison there! Totally agree. Unfortunately, some fans will always be blind to what's in from of them, and will come up with their own fantasies (Ha,ha... like cartoons are real, right?!). But the serious fans can easily see through those fantasies, and be able to tell who is who in this Super Robot genre. }D
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Post by RoboFestivus on Sept 22, 2014 9:02:08 GMT -5
Daiku Maryu, Gaiking and crew can travel through space at light speed and they would mop the floor with all the other Go Nagai robots.
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Post by chogokinabdul on Sept 22, 2014 9:02:25 GMT -5
well TMZ, you can ha ha as much as you want and it is easy to just claim what ever you want but , that don't change facts that true fans of this hobby know enjoy the mazins , it is Grendizer who will always protect them against serious trouble ! grendizer will leave the funny Dr. Hell and ankoko daishogun business to them so they can feel they are still needed
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Sept 22, 2014 10:22:56 GMT -5
well TMZ, you can ha ha as much as you want and it is easy to just claim what ever you want but , that don't change facts that true fans of this hobby know enjoy the mazins , it is Grendizer who will always protect them against serious trouble ! grendizer will leave the funny Dr. Hell and ankoko daishogun business to them so they can feel they are still needed facts??? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha...(infinite again). chogokinabdul, STOP IT!!! My ribs hurt too much already!!! Oh, oh... and who is the lamest villain in all Super Robot anime, that dies in such a cowardly way? This guy! }D
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Sept 22, 2014 10:25:40 GMT -5
Daiku Maryu, Gaiking and crew can travel through space at light speed and they would mop the floor with all the other Go Nagai robots. They are fast, but their armor and attacks are not as strong as the Mazingers' or Grendizer's. }D
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Post by RoboFestivus on Sept 22, 2014 10:27:57 GMT -5
Daiku Maryu, Gaiking and crew can travel through space at light speed and they would mop the floor with all the other Go Nagai robots. They are fast, but their armor and attacks are not as strong as the Mazingers' or Grendizer's. }D Yeah, I know. It was a joke. Daiku does have nukes though.
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