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Post by locidm on Sept 7, 2012 15:22:56 GMT -5
I too am sick of the complaints from the non-owners and Atom. It seems every other post on this thread and on the Miracle Production Voltron thread someone (well, one in particular) has to belittle the giant Mattel Voltron. I have already stated my view of the Mattel Voltron couple pages back and not going to repeat it. But man, say it once, fine, twice, fine, not in every other post please!
If you are trying to gather negative energy around the Mattel Voltron so its value would go down sooner or later, I applaud your significant effort.
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Post by actionawesome on Sept 7, 2012 15:25:17 GMT -5
Thanks guys. I am glad there is some good in it. I will say that I hate how almost impossible this thing is to get for someone who did not know about the thing. I have friends who are hardcore Voltron fans who had NO CLUE. At SDCC people were asking how they buy it and were pi$$ed when they found out you basically could not unless you got it aftermarket.
Seems lame to me. Yes?
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Post by xTIMMYxCOREx on Sept 7, 2012 15:28:18 GMT -5
And how about the Bandai Jumbo Shin Mazinger? I got that one too, and it was not cheap. It was actually about the same price as this Voltron Subscription once the shipping was added in. It is not as artculated, it has no pilot, and while the details and finish are excellent, it is basically a statue that shoots it's fists. That is not going to be the case with this Voltron. This one was designed to be a toy... to be played with! ;D I have Giant Shin Mazinger as well. The Rocket Fist springs break if you leave him for a week with the fists in. Anyone know how to fix them? |
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Post by xTIMMYxCOREx on Sept 7, 2012 15:32:16 GMT -5
Thanks guys. I am glad there is some good in it. I will say that I hate how almost impossible this thing is to get for someone who did not know about the thing. I have friends who are hardcore Voltron fans who had NO CLUE. At SDCC people were asking how they buy it and were pi$$ed when they found out you basically could not unless you got it aftermarket. Seems lame to me. Yes? To be fair they extended subscription sales for like a MONTH past the original close date. This is nothing compared to the 15 seconds you have to pre order a Macross VF-25 renewal on Ami-Ami or be forced to pay 3x as much on eBay. |
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Post by locidm on Sept 7, 2012 15:36:05 GMT -5
Thanks guys. I am glad there is some good in it. I will say that I hate how almost impossible this thing is to get for someone who did not know about the thing. I have friends who are hardcore Voltron fans who had NO CLUE. At SDCC people were asking how they buy it and were pi$$ed when they found out you basically could not unless you got it aftermarket. Seems lame to me. Yes? NOT AT ALL. Mattel did market it for months and subscription was available for order for months. In addition, if you didn't get in on the subscriptions, Mattel tells you the DATE and TIME these lions are available for sale (usually around the 15th of even months starting in February this year, they always have a banner up a week before with exact date and time). All one has to do is to sit in front of screen at the said time and order away. It's usually is opened for orders for 2-3 hours minimum. If you didn't get in starting with the first lion, then it is just like any popular but sold out items, get it on the aftermarket. Don't blame the toy company for not getting in early. Timmy was right, we have had plenty of chances to order this giant, and it's a piece of cake to get relative to the Bandai renewal valkyries, where one really has no realistic chance to score one at MSRP. Now THAT is lame. |
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Sept 7, 2012 17:14:32 GMT -5
Thanks guys. I am glad there is some good in it. I will say that I hate how almost impossible this thing is to get for someone who did not know about the thing. I have friends who are hardcore Voltron fans who had NO CLUE. At SDCC people were asking how they buy it and were pi$$ed when they found out you basically could not unless you got it aftermarket. Seems lame to me. Yes? If it did sell out, be sure that it will be reissued by Matty. They've done it with figures that were instant sellouts in the MOTU and DC lines. It may not be this year, but I'm positive it will be reissued sooner than later.    }D |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2012 17:31:15 GMT -5
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Sept 7, 2012 21:37:11 GMT -5
LOL!!! I posted a positive comment in CDX about the Blue Lion along with the same comic strip here (with more kids friendly dialog of course) and it got DELETED! ;D Here is the CDX family oriented version of the comic strip I posted there:   Yeap, seems like if you don't totally and blindly agree with their reviews you are not worth posting there. Hence, CDX truly sucks now. It just sank to ToyboxDX levels as far as I'm concerned. A shame, since Chachipower and JoshB are pretty cool dudes. Oh well, C'est la vie... ;D }D |
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Sept 7, 2012 21:40:01 GMT -5
And as far as reviewers go, NONE come even close to our own Gold!!! He IS a Master reviewer! ;D
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Post by boricua on Sept 7, 2012 23:34:32 GMT -5
i dont know why you even got to their website. cdx is just an advertisement site for the stores that sponsor them. i dont think mattel gave them anything and that is why atom is so angry and bashing the giant voltron. his opinions have the same merit of dog crap to me!
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Sept 7, 2012 23:42:58 GMT -5
LOL... Nah, I really hardly ever visit CDX anymore. I'm always here now! ;D But seriously, I used to frequent CDX all the time, and even uploaded a whole bunch of pictures of my stuff there. Unfortunately, aside from a couple of folks there, that site has been overrun by arrogant individuals who must believe they are God's gift to collectors. Lucky for me I can see right through their B.S. instantly. They just don't like it when they get called on it... ;D }D |
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Post by xiombarg on Sept 8, 2012 0:42:44 GMT -5
ToyboxDX is ok, but over time it's turned into a club of about ten middle aged men whose primary focus is to one up each other with snarky comments, but it can be fairly entertaining and they do have insightful comments and news.
Personal grudges aside, I'm not sure what CDX is trying to do as a site. It's really just a blog. The admin obviously aren't into collector community discussion with CDX being the only "collector site" I've ever seen that doesn't have an actual forum. So that leaves them with their reviews and the youtube stuff. The reviews are thorough, but really slow to cover new products. And reading straight up dry reviews without any real discussion is not that exciting. The youtube videos are.. ok, but too long and... meh.
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Post by droutmaster on Sept 8, 2012 0:51:43 GMT -5
I understand that some might not like Atom's review, but he has a point. This is a toy collectors item, not a $5 KO toy and QC should have been improve since the red lion but instead this figures has been having that way to many from here and there and the Blue Lion has it worst. Im kinda concern what is gonna be with the Black Lion issues or for that matter the actual connection ports when combine in Voltron are they gonna be strong enough or will it have some breaking point?
btw my friend received the email from them, he has to send it back for a replacement, but sadly they also warn him about a possible refund instead. So the question is should he do it? I already told him that he has to because he paid alot for it and is ridiculous to stay with a defective one unless he wants to buy a second one and risking having another defective one, at least he will get his money back if they cant send him a replacement.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Sept 8, 2012 1:16:23 GMT -5
Atom is full of mer. My Blue Lion is great, and so is xtimmyxcorex's. Right there, two perfectly fine Blue Lions from two members of the same forum. Same applies to the other three I have, again, just like xtimmycorex's. My point is, if you are going to professionaly review these lions, you HAVE to stay objective. Nobody should just claim in their professional review that ALL of these Blue Lions are crap. If Atom was for real, he would smash his lions at the end of his review. Hey, he totally dislikes them right? And he should not try to pass such aweful items to unsuspecting collectors... so blow them up and be done with your suffering Atom. }D |
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Post by droutmaster on Sept 8, 2012 16:04:17 GMT -5
ok 2 members have "perfectly" good lions, but what about the rest of the people that had bought it?
I seen some videos in YT of people pointing some issues with there lions but is kinda random like stickers miss placement or missing(specially on the key), paint apps are not done well in some occasion(sometimes on the lions but most of the time are the pilots) or the gimmick not properly working. Atom has been getting every single lion and has review them like any other collector so i understand its frustration because this is the 4th lion and still to this day Mattel is still having the stupid QC problem that should have been fix since the first lion release and still are charging alot of $$ for it.
So in your personal opinion TMZ, do you accept that mattel can do this QC of a mess as long as you get a 2 feet tall voltron? i understand that you and some other members have been getting perfect with no issues whatsoever, but one can't deny that most of the time they are some many issues with this figures and is not just one simple person but multiple ones, more than those that are getting good version.
don't get me wrong, i can't wait to see my friends voltron fully complete because its gonna be awesome, specially since he has the original castle of lions where the figures looks pretty good in it. but i cant let pass those many QC issues is not acceptable even in a collectors standards.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Sept 8, 2012 17:03:51 GMT -5
What can I tell you... mine are excellent, so I have no room to complain about any of them. Will I recommend it based on my experience? Based on what I have put my hands on, hell yeah! ;D You know what real bad QC is? This...  No amount of paint touch-ups or Krazy Glue will ever make this $600+ figure correct in my book. That's a QC issue to be truly upset about and bash away on the company forever and a day. But a few paint misapplications and slightly crooked decals on a $50 giant action figure from a children's toy company like Mattel?  Anyway, enough of me beating a fossilized horse. ;D }D |
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Post by droutmaster on Sept 8, 2012 17:51:43 GMT -5
What can I tell you... mine are excellent, so I have no room to complain about any of them. Will I recommend it based on my experience? Based on what I have put my hands on, hell yeah! ;D You know what real bad QC is? This... -pic- Dude! you just reminded me when my friend took the fewture Shin Getter out of the box, he was so happy and suddenly the wing broke on his hand. his face change from this happy little kid into demonic hulk with rabbis  . That was really bad from fewture that it escape them that little detail, but at least he received his replacement wings but he hasn't put it on, are the replacement wings better than the old ones because he doesn't trust them, i think his a bit paranoid but i can't blame him really. But a few paint misapplications and slightly crooked decals on a $50 giant action figure from a children's toy company like Mattel? you forgot to add some defective gimmick. XD True Mattel is a children's toy company, but sadly this is not aim for children but to the adult collector and that's were one has to look at it. perhaps if they reduce the price a bit. it would be more passable. hmm if they would make this Voltron on Diecast (which obviously it will never happened), will there be any furniture able to display it before it collapses? well at least one can use it for some weight lifting seperated in lions or combine into Voltron XD. |
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Post by xiombarg on Sept 8, 2012 18:44:57 GMT -5
I do think that Atom does have a totally legitimate point. It's not like the defects he points out aren't real, but what I haven't appreciated in some of his reviews and videos is how he reacts to these problems and especially to the collectors who are buying them. I also think some of his earlier complaints weren't real problems, just nit-picky perceptions, such as the color on the yellow lion being too dull, seam gaps being too wide, and even the painted joints was a bit suspicious only because I moved that joint back and forth at least a three dozen times and didn't notice any paint peeling off, which leads me think Atom was determined to make that paint come off because he didn't like the fact that it was there (which I don't like it there either, but I'm not going to work the joint over until it starts to peel).
With that said, it's really strange that Atom has had so many awful lions. I haven't had a single issue with any of mine, even smaller issues like over-spray or misplaced stickers. I can't help but wonder if somebody at Mattel knows where those lions are going and is intentionally sending him defects? I guess if I was in Atom's shoes I would pissed off too.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Sept 8, 2012 20:31:38 GMT -5
With that said, it's really strange that Atom has had so many awful lions. I haven't had a single issue with any of mine, even smaller issues like over-spray or misplaced stickers. I can't help but wonder if somebody at Mattel knows where those lions are going and is intentionally sending him defects? I guess if I was in Atom's shoes I would pissed off too. That's exactly what I wrote in my post at CDX... and it got deleted! ;D }D |
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Post by chachipower on Sept 10, 2012 11:27:24 GMT -5
Its funny how people get annoyed at the hateful reviews but are willing to overlook the bad stuff as simple fixes. These are not fixes I should be doing. Its like buying a new car and then having to fix stuff yourself or getting two drivers side seats or having a door fall off wgen you open it. Atoms reviews mostly concentrate on the bad because everyone else raves about the figure being two feet tall so we shouldnt complain. I should be biased as a big Voltron fan but truth is I feel matty didnt put enougheffort into this. It feels like they did it just do it.
I feel they hate this project now and cant wait to be done withit. I will be happy to just display mine and never play with it, but for those that play with it they are in for annoying leg popping action while posing, wearing out of paint on joints and other misc sloppiness that should not happen on something so expensive.
If it was meant to be an adult collectible it should have been made like one. I cant stand a review of this toy that doesnt call out the issues of this.As I get each lion I dont feel like Im holding a $70 toy and yes I know thats with shipping but there is no way around the shipping so its a $70 toy. I bought a $10 Star Wars figure that makes the Voltron figures look foot-made.
So basically for me its a cool-looking Voltron on its own but looking beyond that it has lots of issues.
Edit: I had the exact same issues as Atom with my blue lion. Other than that they have been ok for the most part, but definetely sloppy eveything. I have globs of random glue on mine, scrape marks in random areas where the worker either tried to remove stray paint or stray glue spots among other common issues. I wouldnt say I hate this release...i am gappy someone tackled this, but I feel with a teeny bit more effort it could have been amazing. Im sure matty will want to milk these molds after the amount of money they sank into this even if they said no more release
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