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Post by xiombarg on Aug 9, 2011 23:52:27 GMT -5
A combiner that doesn't combine just doesn't do it for me. Where is the fun in that? The whole purpose and the reason some of us like combining super robots is because we get to relive the show by combining the figure. Sure a soundbox is cool and all but what I remember most about Voltron as a kid, was that great looking gift box. Five lion separated, kept inside a styrofoam tray. Say what you will about the MPC Voltron, but it is probably the best 120$ I've ever spent. Great diecast content. Great looking collectible display box with great looking artwork. That SOC GodSigma might have a lot of bulk but is made of mostly plastic, cost nearly double that of MPC Voltron and probably weights a lot less than the MPC Voltron. But going back to the Mattel almost two feet tall Voltron, I still don't like the big gaps on his hips. I agree. Part of the importance of having an actual combiner vs. an action figure for me really depends on what the ships themselves are. When it comes to Voltron, the lions have at least as much of an iconic value to me as does the final combined robot. I mean Voltron IS the lions, that's what made him special among the plethora of other super robots. With other super robots the individual ships seemed like more of a side note than they did with Voltron. |
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Post by supergetterv on Aug 10, 2011 0:21:00 GMT -5
That's not exactly my point. I mean, yeah, most of us just combine them and just leave them the way they are, in their combined form. Just like with the Transformers that I have, they are displayed in their bot mode, and are usually Transformed only a couple of times. But the fact that there is a alt mode. That's is what I am trying to get at. The fact that the figure can separate at any give time, when I want it to. With a figure, you don't have that option. Now, I understand that some of you don't care for that option. That is totally fine. But without the option, I can't help but feel but that it is missing something. I want a Voltron that is more complete, meaning it should be able to combine. It's like the Revoltech Transformers that I once had. Sure, it looks fantastic. But in the end, it doesn't do what a Transformers is supposed to do.
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Post by haro on Aug 10, 2011 1:27:11 GMT -5
Chachipower, after the first two releases in the src line, I've pretty much concluded that they will no longer be releasing old 70's super robots in the line. It seems to me that bandai has now relegated the src line for newer 90s and up? robots while the soc line will now be more dedicated to super robots from the 70's and 80's. Think about who is and will be released on the src and soc lines and you'll notice the trend too. That said I believe voltron/golion will be released only in soc form if ever bandai decides to make it. I would want a combining voltron. I sure as heck want the best of both worlds, but I'm not gonna buy a combining voltron, (again) that doesn't really look super for me. The mp voltron maybe a good buy at $120 but that doesn't make it a perfect representation for me. Just cause it has a decent price doesn't make it any more beautiful in my book. As for the 23" voltron to be honest I think it is a good buy considering the price. Just don't factor the pilot figure cost and you'll realize that for its price and size, it is a very very good buy, but I reiterate, just because it has a decent price doesn't make it any better for me. I'd pay a heck more if I can see that mattel did it right.  |
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Post by magengar on Aug 10, 2011 2:00:09 GMT -5
Well, for the most part, we can see a variety of viewpoints
and very good issues discussed around this Mattel Voltron.
Later on down the road, over the hill, on the other side of
the mountain, the dark side of the moon, when many of us
have progressed past the Drooling stage and have acquired
this specimen, we'll start seeing all sorts of rants and raves
about it. ;D
zozo-mag
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Post by lurkerx on Aug 10, 2011 9:54:36 GMT -5
Interesting to read through all the comments here about the upcoming 24" Voltron.
I hope none of you knocking this Voltron owns any Jumbo Machinders or the Panosh Palace Voltron because if you did you'd loose all credibility in your aesthetics critique.
I think this Voltron rocks, its leaps and bounds ahead of any Voltron of similar size ever created. If it does look a bit corny and a bit out of proportion then so be it. The anime itself was more than abit corny to begin with
It is what it is and its poised to be "the" best rendintion of a "Jumbo" Voltron ever created thus far.
Then there are those who put Bandai on an unreachable pedestal already declaring that its version will trump Toynami's diecast Voltron I mean come on....really?.....it doesn't even exist.
Is it really that hard to admit that a company other than bandai, a series other than the SOC would produce a better version of a super robot?
All I can say is Kudos to Toynami's MPC Voltron (very happy and satisfied with mine so much so that I found my godaikin Golion unnecessary and sold it) and Mattel's effort in re-igniting the voltron fire and delivering great looking affordable super sized versions of Voltron.
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Post by xiombarg on Aug 10, 2011 11:15:31 GMT -5
Lurker has some good points.
For a jumbo sized figure and considering that it combines and fits action figures, it's as well done as anything I've seen. Maybe not perfect, but then I don't think I own a figure that I didn't wish there were some changes.
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Post by boricua on Aug 10, 2011 11:18:06 GMT -5
at two feet tall, the combining voltron will be very impressive, and it still does look like voltron, right? is just that I rather have an action figure that looks like it just jumped out of the television screen, rather than one that attempts to achieve an impossible anime merge and turns out being a weird looking action figure somehow.
but then again, a two feet tall voltron is impressive no matter what. ;D
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Post by locidm on Aug 10, 2011 13:42:44 GMT -5
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Post by chachipower on Aug 10, 2011 13:47:19 GMT -5
I was able to get it out of the box without damaging it, but it did take a while to do so. I did cut off the plastic ties, as they were the biggest pain to undo. }D I did get it out mostly intact but it required A LOT of time and effort. Like 35 minutes of unnecessary labor. I was even able to undo the straps. Although now I know I will never even bother to put it back in... As for the 23" Voltron, it looks off in the hips but it still looks OK. I have one on preorder of course. I still firmly believe if a new gokin Golion gets made, Bandai will be the one to do it. I know a lot of people knock the MPC Voltron but it is pretty well articulated and well done except for the lack of gimmicks. That was it's losing point. as far as proportions, Voltron changed proportions a lot during the show. I found this vid someone made using the MPC and its pretty darn good and captures all the poses well. and this guy from Bandai talks about the SOC release!!!! |
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Post by locidm on Aug 10, 2011 13:51:36 GMT -5
that's an awesome video! thanks!
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Post by emerje on Aug 10, 2011 15:06:22 GMT -5
For those of you who missed this: Well that killed my interest. All those gimmicks are going to kill the lions' articulation. Who's dumb idea was it to put play features in collector's figure? It's not like little kids are going to be playing with these, they're being made for adults. Glad I waited on the subscription, the idea of having to use keys for every little part of the transformation makes it an easy pass now. No wonder the stupid thing is so expensive. Emerje |
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Post by chachipower on Aug 10, 2011 15:19:25 GMT -5
Well that killed my interest. All those gimmicks are going to kill the lions' articulation. Who's dumb idea was it to put play features in collector's figure? It's not like little kids are going to be playing with these, they're being made for adults. Glad I waited on the subscription, the idea of having to use keys for every little part of the transformation makes it an easy pass now. No wonder the stupid thing is so expensive. Emerje You actually dont need the keys at all, its just a gimmick. Look carefully and youll notice the key is not necessary, but I agree, in their effort to make this a figure with pilots, some things got lost. I would have even just preferred to-scale teeny figures that go in the head. The 3.75 figures could have been sold just as figures. After all these are made for collectors, I for one dont feel the need to fit pilots into the lions, especially since its not in scale at all. to me thats the equivalent of sitting Koji in Mazinger Z's chest. Doesnt belong in the chest and not in scale. Oh and the keys shoulda been made how they look in the show, not Panosh Place ripoffs in coordinating colors |
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Post by locidm on Aug 10, 2011 15:20:34 GMT -5
The keys are NOT needed for the transformation. You can transform the thing without the keys. Mattel just thought it'd be nice to incorporate the keys somehow.
You only need the five lions to form voltron. The keys come with the pilot figures. I believe the keys also act as display stands for the pilots
Also coming with the pilot figure is parts for the flaming sword. If you want the sword you have to buy the pilots.
I do wonder about articulation though. I have yet to see a picture of the lions doing a dynamic pose. You may be right about that. I hope not though.
Either case, it's $290 for a 2 feet tall voltron with 6 pilots (if you count Stven) that actually fits, transformable with gimmicks. I'm not complaining too much. They even have a payment plan laid out for you so the cost isn't more than $70 or $80 at any time. To me it's a much better deal than the super7 stormtrooper Shogun warrior.
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Post by xTIMMYxCOREx on Aug 10, 2011 15:41:19 GMT -5
"To me it's a much better deal than the super7 stormtrooper Shogun warrior."
Exactly my thought. This is still pretty cool even if it's not the gokin Go Lion we all wanted. If this sells well whos to say they wont look into doing a diecast one? They do diecast Disney/Pixar Cars toys so they have experience.
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Post by locidm on Aug 10, 2011 15:50:28 GMT -5
I'm sure a diecast one will come sooner or later. MPC is good but not great. I do hope that it gets made into a SOC. This Mattel voltron is in a completely different category though.  |
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Post by xiombarg on Aug 10, 2011 15:55:56 GMT -5
At first I didn't really think about the pilot figures, but after looking at them (and they actually look pretty good..) it will be a blast to display this in diorama type setups with the pilots getting out of the lions and whatnot. I'm thinking the whole pilot action figure thing will actually end up being very cool!
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Post by locidm on Aug 10, 2011 17:24:02 GMT -5
It just occured to me, if this sells well, the logical next step is dairugger the vehicle voltron! It would kick ass to have a combiner vehicle voltron each with its own pilot. It'll be a lot of money though!!!
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Post by xTIMMYxCOREx on Aug 10, 2011 18:17:04 GMT -5
Dairugger with pilots would be AMAZING
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Post by haro on Aug 10, 2011 19:56:45 GMT -5
Interesting to read through all the comments here about the upcoming 24" Voltron. I hope none of you knocking this Voltron owns any Jumbo Machinders or the Panosh Palace Voltron because if you did you'd loose all credibility in your aesthetics critique. I think this Voltron rocks, its leaps and bounds ahead of any Voltron of similar size ever created. If it does look a bit corny and a bit out of proportion then so be it. The anime itself was more than abit corny to begin with It is what it is and its poised to be "the" best rendintion of a "Jumbo" Voltron ever created thus far. Then there are those who put Bandai on an unreachable pedestal already declaring that its version will trump Toynami's diecast Voltron I mean come on....really?.....it doesn't even exist. Is it really that hard to admit that a company other than bandai, a series other than the SOC would produce a better version of a super robot? All I can say is Kudos to Toynami's MPC Voltron (very happy and satisfied with mine so much so that I found my godaikin Golion unnecessary and sold it) and Mattel's effort in re-igniting the voltron fire and delivering great looking affordable super sized versions of Voltron. As stated the only thing this voltron has going for it is its size, If you think it's THE BEST that mattel can do on their rendition of voltron then by all means I suggest you get it. It is being sold for a fairly good price.  Like I said I respect mattel, I respect them enough to know that they can do better than THAT. ;D Different strokes for different folks. As for mpc voltron, please don't misunderstand, I said i like it what i said was I never loved it, and for good reason. Because before I got an mpc voltron I had this: www.collectiondx.com/toy_review/lionbotSo after getting mpc voltron, It was kind of a downhill thing, frankly except for the weight, more proportional sculpt and added movements, I was quite shocked to find that it's almost the same as the old vintage voltrons, for me It didn't offer anything new. Anything that made it extraordinarily good for me. so while I like it, I never felt the need to love it because well, its just another voltron. Check the lions on CDX atom's review and tell me those are not more bad arse than mpc voltron's lions. ;D I think we've had our fair share about each other's opinions already, the fact remains if we want it lets just get it, if we don't then it's an easy pass. I don't think mattel got the voltron license just to make one 23" voltron. And I don't think they are not greedy enough to retire the molds after this one release. Till then, I will wait for the reviews before I judge, but based on press pics alone I'm just saying I'm not liking how it's looking, simple as that. If you think bandai can't make a better voltron, then maybe this 23" mattel voltron is really the best you can ever get. |
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Post by emerje on Aug 11, 2011 0:10:05 GMT -5
It just occured to me, if this sells well, the logical next step is dairugger the vehicle voltron! It would kick ass to have a combiner vehicle voltron each with its own pilot. It'll be a lot of money though!!! Mattel isn't exactly known for their logic. The only reason they're doing this Voltron at all is because they've got the license for the Nick Voltron. Chances are they'll be doing a 23" version of that next. As for reissuing it later, from what I understand Mattel will typically re-release stuff on their site a few months after their initial release. Maybe I'll do the same, wait for reviews and then buy the reissues. Emerje |
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