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Post by magengar on Jul 8, 2012 22:05:31 GMT -5
I didn't know other robots were made of that same kit.
Looks like I'll have to scour eBay to have a look at them. ;D
zozo-mag
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Post by Gettershadow on Jul 8, 2012 22:28:43 GMT -5
No Magengar, its not different robots of the same kit, we mean that the same seller comes up with different recasts of other kits from time to time..
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Post by bourno on Jul 9, 2012 16:17:19 GMT -5
This is the seller myworld.ebay.com/cyber_model/I don't believe I am breaking any rules, as his stuff are pretty much, Buy It Now items. I got a Combattler from him last year, and still haven't made time to build it yet. For primer with my repro parts, I like the Duplicolor sandable primer. It goes on really fine and doesn't take long for it to dry. I get mine from Advance Auto Parts. |
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Post by 1oldrobot on Jul 9, 2012 16:41:42 GMT -5
i have the combattler from him and i got the actual Kaiyodo model on ebay 2 weeks ago for 15 bucks. cant beat that deal. my recast kit came with a bunch of dents in it. not impossible to fix, but the resin version is not nearly as easy to clean up using hot water as the vinyl kits are. bondo and sandpaper. story of my life lately.
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Post by Gettershadow on Jul 9, 2012 18:58:25 GMT -5
thats the same guy I go the Mazinger from.. will the Maz re-cast be vinyl or resin???
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Post by 1oldrobot on Jul 9, 2012 21:29:53 GMT -5
are you sure its the same fella? from MD? if so, i didnt even know he had a mazinger and you beat me to it. if you got your mazinger from the MD guy it will be the real deal and not a recast. if you went the thailand route, 99% sure all he has are recasts of that one. he does have some vinyl kits, but nothing that really matches the tastes of jumbo collectors. if you ask the thai guy for a quote on bulk pricing and shipping, be prepared to wait a week or two for an answer. takes him a long time to ship, too.
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Post by Gettershadow on Jul 9, 2012 22:25:59 GMT -5
got it from the cyber model link above.. thailand, he answered and shipped quick though.. its a re-cast of that big Kaiyodo 20in Mazinger.. I think he said it was vinyl..
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Post by 1oldrobot on Jul 9, 2012 23:07:30 GMT -5
youre right. i just got mine out and looked it over. its vinyl - thats even better and easy to fix. mine does have a couple of dents. the original kaiyodo combattler is in better shape, but otherwise identical. its nice he shipped quick. he is my recent source of other awesome display pieces in my collection. now i need to find the time to put them all together and paint them all. im also searching for the ROMU tetsujin lineup of vinyl kits. anyone?
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Post by Gettershadow on Jul 10, 2012 9:30:58 GMT -5
I actulally filled some dents with sculpey on a vinyl in the past.. I just slow-cooked it, it bonded right to the vinyl and came out as flexible as the vinyl too...more or less... you just gotta be careful to keep the heat low in the oven and keep the vinyl in a decent shape so it doesnt flatten out too much on you.
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Post by 1oldrobot on Jul 10, 2012 12:03:25 GMT -5
id be careful doing that. if you soften any plastic enough youll reset the molecular bond and it will distort and be really hard to put it back to its original shape. the safest best if to coat the dented area in polyurethane. then bondo can stick to it.
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Post by 1oldrobot on Jul 11, 2012 2:41:13 GMT -5
SLAYER!!! after all this talk about our vinyl kits, i cut into the Kaiyodo original Combattler 22" tonight. Removed all the excess vinyl and got my finger tips 3x pretty good w my xacto, and one time right across the base of my finger, shooting blood across the room. some super glue and surgical tape and 30 min later, i finished cutting him out and will prime tomorrow. ive got good pics of deep cuts and blood if y'all wanna see.
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Post by bourno on Jul 11, 2012 8:19:20 GMT -5
Dang man. Once is bad enuff, but three times.
I try to use the curved blades as much as I can, as those tend to get me less than the straight #11 blades.
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Post by magengar on Jul 12, 2012 16:20:46 GMT -5
OUCH! Bro, like I always say: This hobby aint worth DYING for.
Yet here you are takin it to the next level of blood-curdling Extremeties
that rival the best of any '70s B cult-classic gore movie. ;D
Seriously, ya Gotta be careful cutting into Jumbo plastic...
...any sharp knife blade can and Will easily slip through the cut
and hack your limbs off... jumbo plastic material is Very sneaky
that way, when you think the blade is stuck and you force it
suddenly it slashes through the material like ice and cuts ya
real deep, screaming bloody murder CANYON deep.
Be Very VERY Careful when cutting into jumbo plastic.
zozo-mag
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Post by magengar on Jul 12, 2012 16:27:48 GMT -5
That Great Mazinger jumbo project is actually a pictorial I made for that project. I snapped pics and typed the text around the pics. I no longer have those images other than what you see at my Multiply webpage. I lost the original image files to a hard-drive crash months after I painted the head and modified the body. That jumbo now sits in storage with my mom in Puerto Rico, along with my better hauls. I've got a couple of old beat-up Gaiking jumbos I plan to modify as soon as I can make some free time for them. I really wanna back to these projects as soon as possible, but time and money constraints gots me by the cojones. zozo-mag zozo-mag I'd love to read the article about the Great Mazinger makeover, but the text is too small to read. Can someone repost a direct URL with bigger text or email me a .pdf so I can read the entire article? Many thanks, Jacob |
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Post by 1oldrobot on Jul 12, 2012 19:25:00 GMT -5
how right you are, my own stupid mistake. i have no sympathy for myself. i know better. i did exaggerate and scream like a girl that got my girlfriend running onto the room. 45 minutes later, she served me dinner, fluffed my pillow and brought me a beer. as the gore spurted, i was thinking Driller Killer, a bad bad bad movie i could watch over and over again. still, the model is awesome, i am not. painting tonight and piecing together tomorrow. this kaiyodo kit is really nice. it is a thick pour so i dont think sagging vinyl will be a problem. and the sculpt is nice. i hope all my bootleg vinyl and resin kits i ordered are as thick and flawless. there is a LOT of cool stuff out there in bootleg kit land.
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Post by 1oldrobot on Jul 24, 2012 23:47:15 GMT -5
ugh! got a box from cyber-you-know-who today. some of the larger models i bought will never be assembled. the vinyl is far too thin of a pour to support its own weight. im not building an armature for a model. tons of dents and burns on it. the crotch on my second MZ looks like a cat vomit collection since he is using a damaged mold. rather than using bondo on the smaller pieces that are vinyl kits, ill whip up a gooey batch of jb kwik to fill the dents. be careful when ordering the larger pieces. you may shoot him an email and request a thicker pour. also, on ebay there are several other thai sellers doing the same thing. ill give them a try next time and find who does the best work.
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Post by magengar on Jul 29, 2012 11:24:01 GMT -5
In any case, don't discard the one with the 'too-thin vinyl' issues.
Even those can be useful as templates if someday you'd like to
try your own hand at making your very own bootleg of these
specimens. They'll give you enough hands-on practice to develop
your bootleg modeling skillz.
In this hobby, there are so many So-So bootleg specimens trying
to make impressions in the market they suck.
You wanna admire bootlegs that are of Very Good quality because
the person who made the bootleg took careful aim at making the
specimen almost as exactly true to the original source, and the
craft-work looks extremely well done.
It also shows that the person is truly a fan of the toy for the
sake of the art-work put into the bootleg; instead of just trying
to make a fast buck with some cheaply made toy replica.
Really true pro-quality bootlegs add compliments to their original
source toy robots in a display.
Those particular well-done bootlegs are worth pursuing if you're
into collecting "Booties" (my term for bootlegs. lol)
zozo-mag
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Post by bourno on Jul 29, 2012 14:05:26 GMT -5
One may be able to use some 2 part - 2lb expanding foam in several small pours to make it rigid and keep the shape by little pours to not create much foam pressure as it expands.
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Post by magengar on Jul 29, 2012 15:13:15 GMT -5
The expanding foam is a great idea. Yes, use it in small pours indeed.
Expanding foam, if too much is used, could burst the object it is filling.
You're gonna hate me for this: I once used Great Stuff to fill
the inside of a Great Mazinger jumbo's body. It didn't bloat nor
expanded the jumbo's body, but it sure made it friggin rigid
and heavier.... it felt so solid I could have cracked someone's
skull with it! ;D
zozo-mag
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Post by 1oldrobot on Jul 29, 2012 15:17:02 GMT -5
ive thought about the expanding foam quite a bit and seems like a great idea. i thought about putting some in my U5 garada feet also, to prevent them from sagging. magengar - i totally agreee - i have lots of appreciation for a goot bootleg, especially knowing that someone went through the trouble to doing the project, and also doing the hard work of executing a design. in this case the guys mold has been patched and repatched in areas that have a high probability of tearing. i finished that model a few days ago, and im happy enough. on the shelf with 30 other robots, he looks pretty good.
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