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Post by actionawesome on Feb 3, 2014 23:31:32 GMT -5
Yeah. More than most SOC
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Post by nikodiablo on Feb 4, 2014 2:21:12 GMT -5
The new updated pics looked excellent! However, I had some gripes about the alternate mode. It looks like that FT designed the alternate mode based on the toon, and they're totally successful in replicating that look. Personally, I wish that FT had incorporated the designs of the original toy, particularly on the rear end of the dino into their own design. I thought the G1 toy nailed the look really well. I also would prefer if the rear legs of the dino is larger and placed higher, the tail to be able to rest against the ground, and the dino mode to have some neck, but that's just me. I have secured a re-issue MP Grimlock and hopefully would have some expendable cash when FT's Scoria is released next month.
BTW, we haven't seen any rendering of the back of the figure. I'm still wondering how Scoria will stow it's tail. Can't be inside the robot's lower legs, cause they seem to be used for storage of the dino's rear legs. I can't wait to see the rest of the dinobots.
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Post by Lejam on Feb 4, 2014 8:13:28 GMT -5
FT sticked to MP grimlock in term of style and design, with a pinch of G1 cartoon for alt mode...
Transformation process is the same as G1 toys : arms tun is front legs, legs bending on maximum
and create rear (then rear legs pop out and unfold) and finally, "wings" close to create thorax
and align head to rear...
Proportions are good here and head sculpt is really well interpreted and expressive.
Price is a KO for any wallet (this is a collector grade figure).
But we can clearly know what are retail price now for limited production completed figures done by any 3rd P Company.
Classic grade = USD 60-80 and 130-150 for bigger size (like FP Diesel)
MP scale = USD 150-200
But I agree, FT Scoria is hurting hard in design and also in price.
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Post by actionawesome on Feb 4, 2014 16:45:17 GMT -5
What is the run on FT figures?
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Post by Chen on Feb 5, 2014 6:42:53 GMT -5
Not sure so far FT has only released one figure. But that figure did have three production runs and a possible re-color coming so say 5-10,000 per run.
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Post by ancestral on Feb 10, 2014 21:42:25 GMT -5
Does anyone think that the price of this will come down when it's released?
Doesn't seem like FT is limited their production runs. They will make as many as there is demand for.
What is Hasbro going to do now? Do they have any plans on releasing their own version of dinobots?
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Post by actionawesome on Feb 10, 2014 22:30:13 GMT -5
Doubtful. Demand seems to be high which begs the reasoning as to why Takara/Hasbro are missing the boat on these products. Are they out of touch with the fan base or is it just the US fan base that wants these figures. We know Quakewave sold very well.
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Post by Chen on Feb 11, 2014 7:50:18 GMT -5
Hasbro will probably make Dinobots from the new movie but I doubt they will ever make G1 versions. Takara might make them for the MP line but that won't be for a LONG time. Prices for the FT versions won't go down by much if it all just because there's no one else making G1 accurate MP sized Dinobots. They make as many as people want because they keep selling them so demand is still pretty high.
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Post by Lejam on Feb 11, 2014 8:21:39 GMT -5
Yep, Masterpiece class is risky for 3rd party Companies.
-> not cheap to produce and takes time too.
Fanstoys made a hit with QuakeWave and gained his gold medal.
The quicly jump on Dinobots before anybody.
I don't know what Bullsfire got in mind, but they are sliding on a risky choice.
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Post by Chen on Feb 11, 2014 8:49:02 GMT -5
Yeah I have no idea what Bullsfire is thinking, they probably want to jump on the FT bandwagon. They have already lowered their price on Swoop because of complaints.
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Post by Lejam on Feb 21, 2014 5:32:21 GMT -5
Box art :  ... AND ... Here come new challengers :  |
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Post by actionawesome on Feb 21, 2014 14:16:15 GMT -5
So now we have 3 companies making Dinobots. Awesome. This last one looks to be doing a Grimlock too!
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Post by Lejam on Feb 23, 2014 6:20:22 GMT -5
Yep... Gigapower is a new 3rd P and they are coming with a first great shape : SNARL.  |
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Post by Chen on Feb 23, 2014 9:18:29 GMT -5
That looks nice, maybe a little to over detailed but nice. I need to see some size and price comparisons but right now I'm sticking with FT.
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Post by nikodiablo on Feb 23, 2014 10:57:29 GMT -5
That Snarl pretty much nailed MP Grimlock's aesthetics on the head!!! I like the facts that this new company chooses to use clear parts to make it more uniform with MP Grimlock too. But before getting to excited, I still want to see the scale, the alt mode and a review once this comes out, but I bet a lot of fans are going to be ecstatic. Unfortunately, the backfins seem to be awfully thin though. This year is a good year for Dinosaurbots! EDIT: Dalianjj of Fanstoys said that these new dinobots will be in scale with FT's Scoria, maybe even a bit bigger. He said he found out about the info in a Chinese message board. Oh, and Dalianjj also said that FT's Snarl will have toes  ! |
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Post by ancestral on Feb 23, 2014 13:53:27 GMT -5
Getting caught up on the 3rd party dinobot releases. Please excuse my ignorance regarding these new releases. So Bullseye, TF, and GigaPower will be making ALL FIVE dinobots? If this is true which is the perferred Dinobots to get? TF I'm assuming since they did such a phenomenal job with Soundwave.
Does this mean that the 3rd parties have pretty much shut out Takara out of the Dinobot marketplace?
Is the better to wait until all the different versions are out then make a decision on which one to buy? I'm assuming that these will not be limited in production as these 3rd party companies will produce as much inventory as there is demand.
Are all 3rd party Dinobot sized larger than MP-08? I know that the TF Slag is larger than MP-08 and has the platform shoes.
Ancestral
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Post by Chen on Feb 23, 2014 14:12:10 GMT -5
I wouldn't say they shut Takara out since if Takara wanted to they could release the Dinobots and end up shutting the 3rd parties out. Most fans would probably go with a official release over a 3rd party offering.
As for size FT seems scaled with MP-10 and have released the excellent Quakewave. Gigapower is also using MP-10 as their scale reference and infact could end up being bigger then FT's offering. Bullseye seems to have based their swoop off MP-8 and looks like it will be the smallest. Only Gigapower has shown that they will make all five Dinobots while FT says they will wait and see and Bullseye has stated nothing.
Right now I'm sticking with FT since the others are either too small and both have only shown prototypes.
You could wait but you might also end up losing out on getting one and paying secondary prices if you don't pre-order.
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Post by Lejam on Feb 23, 2014 15:32:07 GMT -5
Sticking with Fanstoys too : they choose to stay in MP design politics, that means details come on good placement, not too much, not few, reffer to G1 and keep dynamic shape like the cartoon does. Agree with you Chen, this Snaarl has maybe too much details and offers more than graphic panel lines : boulons, pins, etc... Same choice done by MMC on their Predaking. It's nice but a bit "off topic" for MP line. I missed the G1 Dinobots long time ago and do not feel to get them now. Getting a full MP set is more exciting (and pricey). Collecting 3P toys is now way more interesting than regular releases... Ok, I give my support to these young companies but I also building a collection with inovative approach to original characters, with good engineering, design, etc... And thinking about the limited runs these are producted, it's like having rare gems (and too much box in my house)... Let's see how this year will happen with all of these good toy creations.  |
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Post by actionawesome on Feb 23, 2014 19:53:56 GMT -5
Wow. Snarl looks awesome!!!!
Has Takara totally missed the boat here? Seems like they are not understanding demand?
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Post by Chen on Feb 23, 2014 20:44:20 GMT -5
Takara seems to be focusing on the cars and gaurenteed hits. They are also into designs with multiple applications and uses. If they make another Dinobot they would have to make them all do to demand. Right now Takara is happy letting 3rd party companies take the cost of development and the profits for now since what they make also sells with less costs but higher profits. Its a tenuous "treaty" but for now works. As long as they don't release the same character their happy with letting these companies go.
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