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Post by Holygrail on May 10, 2017 1:57:50 GMT -5
Yup, he scammed me to. Told me the item was in stock. I ordered the item, then after a week of not responding, he finally responded and said he doesn't have the item?  !!!. I asked for a refund but he said sorry sales are final. Had to do a chargeback on my card. Aawwwwwww no good man! Not your fault with its not in stock after you paid - did you get your money back? Yeah, Used American Express and their pretty good at refunding your money back.  |
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Post by KumaStyle.com (TJ) on May 10, 2017 6:51:14 GMT -5
So, is this in danger of not being released or some etailers not carrying it? Or both?
I'm in a weird position to where I sold my v1 with confidence that this would come out at some point. Does anyone talk to MadToy/Whatever their name is today directly?
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Post by S_Gokin on May 10, 2017 14:18:26 GMT -5
are we talking about the same guy guys ?
he was very helpful with me, i remember i had a problem with my credit card, and he hold a KOB for a week just for me, i manage to fix every thing in 2 days tho, also alot of people were getting tons OF QCs on their KOB, so i asked him to check it before he ship, and he did he even put a note on the inside of package
sorry to hear you had an awful experience with him
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Post by faelon on May 10, 2017 20:48:30 GMT -5
So, is this in danger of not being released or some etailers not carrying it? Or both? I'm in a weird position to where I sold my v1 with confidence that this would come out at some point. Does anyone talk to MadToy/Whatever their name is today directly? It's Icarus Toys. They haven't said anything about KoB since February on their Facebook page. I think the only seller still listing it is LCMToys. BBTS told me they pulled the listing and cancelled all preorders when they found out Icarus lied about it being licensed product. It wouldn't surprise me if other more reputable merchants did the same. I don't see a lot of listings for Icarus stuff anywhere after the Getter Arc. I'm betting 2 weeks to yet another company name change. I'm sure the robot itself will show up somewhere unless some government agency seized it and landfilled the run. They have shown off plenty of pictures of the black version in production and being boxed. So the units are out there somewhere. Of course they could also be caught up in some other legal hassles. It has passed through so many hands at this point, and so many lies are attached to it, that who knows how much fraud or controversy may be going on behind the scenes? There may be some question of who owns the bloody thing. Above and beyond the licensing issues. |
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Post by KumaStyle.com (TJ) on May 10, 2017 23:44:21 GMT -5
So, is this in danger of not being released or some etailers not carrying it? Or both? I'm in a weird position to where I sold my v1 with confidence that this would come out at some point. Does anyone talk to MadToy/Whatever their name is today directly? It's Icarus Toys. They haven't said anything about KoB since February on their Facebook page. I think the only seller still listing it is LCMToys. BBTS told me they pulled the listing and cancelled all preorders when they found out Icarus lied about it being licensed product. It wouldn't surprise me if other more reputable merchants did the same. I don't see a lot of listings for Icarus stuff anywhere after the Getter Arc. I'm betting 2 weeks to yet another company name change. I'm sure the robot itself will show up somewhere unless some government agency seized it and landfilled the run. They have shown off plenty of pictures of the black version in production and being boxed. So the units are out there somewhere. Of course they could also be caught up in some other legal hassles. It has passed through so many hands at this point, and so many lies are attached to it, that who knows how much fraud or controversy may be going on behind the scenes? There may be some question of who owns the bloody thing. Above and beyond the licensing issues. This is crazy. I almost want to own one as a symbol of some of the worst product distribution ever even moreso than being a Voltron homage. Do you know if Icarus is a new company or a rebrand/offshoot? |
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Post by S_Gokin on May 11, 2017 1:24:33 GMT -5
i want to have one for all the drama it cause lol
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Post by faelon on May 11, 2017 21:29:16 GMT -5
It's Icarus Toys. They haven't said anything about KoB since February on their Facebook page. I think the only seller still listing it is LCMToys. BBTS told me they pulled the listing and cancelled all preorders when they found out Icarus lied about it being licensed product. It wouldn't surprise me if other more reputable merchants did the same. I don't see a lot of listings for Icarus stuff anywhere after the Getter Arc. I'm betting 2 weeks to yet another company name change. I'm sure the robot itself will show up somewhere unless some government agency seized it and landfilled the run. They have shown off plenty of pictures of the black version in production and being boxed. So the units are out there somewhere. Of course they could also be caught up in some other legal hassles. It has passed through so many hands at this point, and so many lies are attached to it, that who knows how much fraud or controversy may be going on behind the scenes? There may be some question of who owns the bloody thing. Above and beyond the licensing issues. This is crazy. I almost want to own one as a symbol of some of the worst product distribution ever even moreso than being a Voltron homage. Do you know if Icarus is a new company or a rebrand/offshoot? Icarus has been around for awhile. They are a prior manufacturer that would appear to have acquired the KoB designs, tooling and product when MadToys or BUToys could no longer proceed. Icarus are the ones that showed off the Getter Arc and that funky Getter Dragon riding the Dragon last year. They don't appear to be a rename of anybody. And you are correct. At this point I almost want one just as a historical object lesson in how not to do it. |
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Post by BIGFIRE on May 12, 2017 10:40:29 GMT -5
I got this message this morning from LCM Toys: Just talk with manufacturer (Icarus Toys). They said the Golion are well prepared and will be launched anytime. There are more photos of dark version in my Google album. You can check them out here: goo.gl/photos/bU8nPXHBHJtpQJLP8I will let you know when they are already on hand. Thank you for everything. |
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Post by ahunter858 on May 12, 2017 11:24:34 GMT -5
I got this message this morning from LCM Toys: Just talk with manufacturer (Icarus Toys). They said the Golion are well prepared and will be launched anytime. There are more photos of dark version in my Google album. You can check them out here: goo.gl/photos/bU8nPXHBHJtpQJLP8I will let you know when they are already on hand. Thank you for everything. I received the exact same email from him. I told him about what I've been reading on this thread and actually gave him a link to it as well so that he's more informed. He said that he's not aware of anything like that and the licensing issues. I told him that I want my money back because even if these things ship out to us, there is no guarantee that customs will not destroy it because of what Icarus has done. I'm not willing to risk losing a little over $500 and get nothing in return. This whole situation is such a cluster F*#$! |
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Post by S_Gokin on May 12, 2017 11:52:21 GMT -5
what about the regular version ?
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Post by faelon on May 12, 2017 20:28:30 GMT -5
what about the regular version ? I notice we have seen lots of pictures of the black in production at various stages. I could be wrong, but I don't think we have seen any showing trays of regular colored parts, etc. which makes me somewhat suspect that the regular color one is still in a state of vapor ware. The black may be being made first in order to run up some cash flow for the regular. It has the benefit of being more distinct and "special" while being easier to produce (less paint work.) |
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Post by S_Gokin on May 13, 2017 0:30:32 GMT -5
I notice we have seen lots of pictures of the black in production at various stages. I could be wrong, but I don't think we have seen any showing trays of regular colored parts, etc. which makes me somewhat suspect that the regular color one is still in a state of vapor ware. The black may be being made first in order to run up some cash flow for the regular. It has the benefit of being more distinct and "special" while being easier to produce (less paint work.) you are right, there is alot of photos here and there for the black version but the regular color is really rare, tho couple of stores showed the box and the toy (page 6 and 7) still we didnt get a clean shot of it |
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Post by Coletron on May 13, 2017 11:26:48 GMT -5
No matter what happens with 2.0, I'm so glad I have the 1st version. The SOC is the definitive modern Voltron. The original KOB is unique and different. It stands alone.
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Post by S_Gokin on May 26, 2017 7:14:20 GMT -5
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Post by FixedInPost on May 26, 2017 7:43:51 GMT -5
This looks pretty good actually. Although it makes me think of when you see pictures of Bigfoot in the wild. And you think "hey they are gonna find Bigfoot any day now", but he never shows up.
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Post by BIGFIRE on May 26, 2017 10:50:47 GMT -5
Well congrats to that person who got it.
What about the rest of us!! LOL! I joe it sees a release and doesn't end up on like the MoShow Quanta.
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Post by moleman on May 26, 2017 14:30:27 GMT -5
Well congrats to that person who got it. What about the rest of us!! LOL! I joe it sees a release and doesn't end up on like the MoShow Quanta. Actually you do want to end up like the MoShow 00 Quanta because it did get released and it's currently being held at the post office for me. |
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Post by musha on Jun 2, 2017 22:24:01 GMT -5
I want the Black
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Post by faelon on Jun 4, 2017 0:30:34 GMT -5
The blacks honestly kind of bland and un interesting. The Toynami Ultimate EX Voltron Stealth version did a much better job of keeping the black scheme and adding the robots main colors as some subtle accent colors that give each lion the needed visual pop. This one is just Black. Before attempting to buy I strongly suggest you read back through the last couple of pages to see just how bizarre and precarious this whole product is. Quite frankly don't pay anything for it that you are not afraid or cannot afford to lose. That's assuming anybody ever actually sees one out in the wild. |
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Post by S_Gokin on Jun 4, 2017 7:51:54 GMT -5
The blacks honestly kind of bland and un interesting. The Toynami Ultimate EX Voltron Stealth version did a much better job of keeping the black scheme and adding the robots main colors as some subtle accent colors that give each lion the needed visual pop. This one is just Black. Before attempting to buy I strongly suggest you read back through the last couple of pages to see just how bizarre and precarious this whole product is. Quite frankly don't pay anything for it that you are not afraid or cannot afford to lose. That's assuming anybody ever actually sees one out in the wild. i think its dependable on the person, for me i like the MT Black version more, it have alot of things to offer but we are already in June and there is no news about it so far, i agree with you that no one should pay upfront for it |
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