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Post by greengetterguy on Jun 16, 2023 18:44:15 GMT -5
It’s a real shame giant company like Bandai lagging behind a RELATIVE new comer like CCS
Loose Joints are inexcusable…why didn’t Bandai use plastic like POM /nylon between metal parts in those metal joint?
Not a fan of those hexagon motive plastered just ALL over the place like cheap tattoo…
I wish Bandai would bring back INFINITISM MB.
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Post by mpchi on Jun 16, 2023 19:19:43 GMT -5
It’s a real shame giant company like Bandai lagging behind a RELATIVE new comer like CCS Loose Joints are inexcusable…why didn’t Bandai use plastic like POM /nylon between metal parts in those metal joint? Not a fan of those hexagon motive plastered just ALL over the place like cheap tattoo… I wish Bandai would bring back INFINITISM MB. Yeah, I would definitely favor the Infinitism aesthetics on this Shin Getter for sure, like keep the silhouette and proportions, but with the Infinitism paneling. The 2 Mazingers looks and plays great (aside shoulders look a bit oversized)! I honestly didn't expect Bandai to fumble on this one. While some issues varies from copy to copy and can be minor, the wobble hip is pretty prominent. When the hip can wobble this much (watch the ToysTV video, they really try to make a point out of that, shaking the legs in front of camera saying "WTF" multiple times LOL), the figure can really take a nose dive from a stance, and we know how many pointy stuff Shin Getter has and can't afford a fall of any kind. They almost never let the figure standing on its own throughout the whole review segment, unless it was on the display stand. Otherwise, someone's hand was either holding or supporting it on the table. Folks that bought it, better keep it on the display stand (and pray that connector peg on the stand doesn't stress and break). Went back and read the comments on Hacchaka's review. Same issues with the unstable/loose chest, hip, and ankles. hacchaka.net/archives/52096345.html
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Post by amr on Jun 16, 2023 22:38:57 GMT -5
I'd like to see a three side comparison with the riobot and CCS. watching the reviews seems like riobot is better (and looks better to me). CCS has its merits, I'm not so sure about its aesthetics though... Probably will be something like: Riobot - Nice sculpt and best in articulaion of the 3 with most natural poses. But both joint material and paint can be better. Joints can get loose if you go too crazy posing it a lot. CCSToys - Feels the best in hand, big, heavy, sturdy, metal joints, lights, magnets, but not the best looking in some areas. Metal Build - (speculation) Cool broad proportion, nice paint finish, some parts with great joint engineering, but some parts fell short with limited articulation for no good reason. Some joint tightness and wobble issues. Overall you mean Ccstoys wins
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Post by mpchi on Jun 17, 2023 0:43:19 GMT -5
Probably will be something like: Riobot - Nice sculpt and best in articulaion of the 3 with most natural poses. But both joint material and paint can be better. Joints can get loose if you go too crazy posing it a lot. CCSToys - Feels the best in hand, big, heavy, sturdy, metal joints, lights, magnets, but not the best looking in some areas. Metal Build - (speculation) Cool broad proportion, nice paint finish, some parts with great joint engineering, but some parts fell short with limited articulation for no good reason. Some joint tightness and wobble issues. Overall you mean Ccstoys wins Hard to say since we all prefer different things. But just on overall quality and most gokin for the buck, yes CCSToys wins. Personally, I don't like the head of CCSToys' red Shin Getter, and the cracked egg shell look. So I picked Black Shin Getter instead. But if I have to pick just 1, it would be Riobot, as it still has my favorite sculpt of Shin Getter and still the champ of articulation. I kept mine very well and all the joints are still nice and tight. But I can't deny how good CCSToys' is, so I have to have that Black Shin. Metal Build will likely be a pass for me, unless it goes on crazy discount later on somehow.
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Post by S_Gokin on Jun 17, 2023 10:05:06 GMT -5
its sad to see all of these issues on a good looking figure, still i think people will get regardless
for me im happy with the EX Gokin and the CCS
on the other hand this issues bring the question of whats going on with Bandai's R&D department ? i mean those issues are very primitive how come they released the figure like that ?
in these days you cant afford to make those mistakes and odd designs choices
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Post by greengetterguy on Jun 17, 2023 15:49:32 GMT -5
giant companies THINK they’re infallible… Come on, NO company’s infallible. (Even Jeff Bezo knows that…)
Just look at COUNTLESS companies like Sony(arguably), Atari, Sega, Wellsfargo, IBM,Blackberry…on and on. Bandai can also be part of that history if they keep this going…well it’s “high end” departments anyways.
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Post by S_Gokin on Jun 17, 2023 23:25:31 GMT -5
giant companies THINK they’re infallible… Come on, NO company’s infallible. (Even Jeff Bezo knows that…) Just look at COUNTLESS companies like Sony(arguably), Atari, Sega, Wellsfargo, IBM,Blackberry…on and on. Bandai can also be part of that history if they keep this going…well it’s “high end” departments anyways.
but bro Blackberry always comes back from the dead lol
joking aside i agree with you, my shake test is becoming a trend right now
tho for a metal build this figure should be a rock, remember the Moshow's ? those were statue like same goes with the HeatBoys Leo (even with upside down shake)
Bandai need to rethink and reevaluate some things, but knowing how they roll they wont give a single damn
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Post by Lejam on Jun 23, 2023 13:30:03 GMT -5
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Post by ImpactKaizer on Jul 1, 2023 6:14:09 GMT -5
It’s a real shame giant company like Bandai lagging behind a RELATIVE new comer like CCS Loose Joints are inexcusable…why didn’t Bandai use plastic like POM /nylon between metal parts in those metal joint? Not a fan of those hexagon motive plastered just ALL over the place like cheap tattoo… I wish Bandai would bring back INFINITISM MB. Yeah, I would definitely favor the Infinitism aesthetics on this Shin Getter for sure, like keep the silhouette and proportions, but with the Infinitism paneling. The 2 Mazingers looks and plays great (aside shoulders look a bit oversized)! I honestly didn't expect Bandai to fumble on this one. While some issues varies from copy to copy and can be minor, the wobble hip is pretty prominent. When the hip can wobble this much (watch the ToysTV video, they really try to make a point out of that, shaking the legs in front of camera saying "WTF" multiple times LOL), the figure can really take a nose dive from a stance, and we know how many pointy stuff Shin Getter has and can't afford a fall of any kind. They almost never let the figure standing on its own throughout the whole review segment, unless it was on the display stand. Otherwise, someone's hand was either holding or supporting it on the table. Folks that bought it, better keep it on the display stand (and pray that connector peg on the stand doesn't stress and break). Went back and read the comments on Hacchaka's review. Same issues with the unstable/loose chest, hip, and ankles. hacchaka.net/archives/52096345.htmlSo I've been out of the loop & how bad is it exactly Cause I'm a bit hesitant to get him if he has that much Issue & I'll probably just stick with my Riobot , 3Zero & CCStoy one if they guy has so much issue with it's joint's system :/ . Might grab him here locally once he's 75% off .
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Post by gpa on Jul 2, 2023 15:43:49 GMT -5
Joints on mine have been fine, nice and sturdy! At least it's done everything I've tried so far. He has been standing on his own without the base since Monday and I've moved him to different shelves a couple times. I do the the ankle joint could be a little tighter but doesn't seem particularly loose to me as long as the weight is balanced. I haven't tried leaving it in any really crazy poses though.
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Post by mpchi on Jul 2, 2023 22:07:07 GMT -5
Even Joe is pretty disappointed with his, when he is a pretty positive guy in all his reviews. You can tell by his face and expressions as the review progresses, zapping out his "happy go lucky attitude" more and more, doesn't even joke around anymore like he usually does. Same issues as mentioned before.
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Post by greengetterguy on Jul 2, 2023 22:48:44 GMT -5
Yeah, I’m def seeing a pattern…
I DO love his proportion and the face tho (One of the best if not the best…). It’s bit frustrating.
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Post by zetaking on Jul 3, 2023 11:58:51 GMT -5
oh well. looks like this getter is a bit of a dud... not sure if I should even get it anymore...
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Post by mpchi on Jul 3, 2023 14:13:09 GMT -5
Yeah, I’m def seeing a pattern… I DO love his proportion and the face tho (One of the best if not the best…). It’s bit frustrating. What surprised me is how small the actually ankle ball that connects the feet. No wonder it has stability issues. Didn't see this from other reviews, but Joe popped off the foot by accident and revealed its 'secret'. Not sure what Bandai designers were thinking to support a 700-800g diecast figure with those 2 tiny little balls...
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Post by zetaking on Jul 3, 2023 14:59:25 GMT -5
Bandai's long history and army of engineers who should have plenty of experience still make such a rookie mistake? What is going on with them lately? Not sure if this is their issue or their contracted manufacturing plant that has this issue?
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Post by mpchi on Jul 3, 2023 16:39:19 GMT -5
Bandai's long history and army of engineers who should have plenty of experience still make such a rookie mistake? What is going on with them lately? Not sure if this is their issue or their contracted manufacturing plant that has this issue? This is definitely a Bandai/design issue. That tiny ball ankle might work on a small Metal Robot Damashii, but even the Barbatos was plagued with loose joints issue due to the overused small metal ball joints looking exactly like this one, which Wotafa used as candidate for his joint fixing video with the Liquitex Matte Varnish to begin with. That ankle connection should not be a ball joint at all. Either rely totally on the big ball above with limited range, or re-design the ankle differently with a different type of double joint for extra articulation. No matter how sturdy the big metal ball above is, the bottom tiny ball will always be the weak spot and can't support the weight. Just too little contact surface to create enough friction for something this size and weight. Just simple physics, man.
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Post by S_Gokin on Jul 3, 2023 16:53:27 GMT -5
What surprised me is how small the actually ankle ball that connects the feet. No wonder it has stability issues. Didn't see this from other reviews, but Joe popped off the foot by accident and revealed its 'secret'. Not sure what Bandai designers were thinking to support a 700-800g diecast figure with those 2 tiny little balls...
ERROR 404 Bandai designers not found
thank you for sharing this, to be honest with you after you guys mentioned Getter 1 design cues and the Getter machine in the wings i felt weak in the knees and i was really thinking of grabbing one but for those issues and the price i dont think i will do any time soon
its really sad since the gimmicks, the ideas, and the design is really cool
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Post by mpchi on Jul 3, 2023 17:19:57 GMT -5
What surprised me is how small the actually ankle ball that connects the feet. No wonder it has stability issues. Didn't see this from other reviews, but Joe popped off the foot by accident and revealed its 'secret'. Not sure what Bandai designers were thinking to support a 700-800g diecast figure with those 2 tiny little balls... ERROR 404 Bandai designers not found thank you for sharing this, to be honest with you after you guys mentioned Getter 1 design cues and the Getter machine in the wings i felt weak in the knees and i was really thinking of grabbing one but for those issues and the price i dont think i will do any time soon
its really sad since the gimmicks, the ideas, and the design is really cool
Give it a few months. If it really didn't sell well and end up getting 30-40% Off around Thanksgiving or Christmas, that would the time to strike. At least knowing what to expect and getting one at heavily discounted price, it is at least worthy as a strictly display piece with its known problems. Price is definitely going down 15-20% in HK right now. We'll see if that happens in a more global scale.
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Post by khestoi on Jul 5, 2023 6:38:58 GMT -5
Did Bandai commented on the issues with this figure? I would like to hear what they had to say.
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Post by S_Gokin on Jul 5, 2023 10:30:25 GMT -5
Did Bandai commented on the issues with this figure? I would like to hear what they had to say.
from my experience Bandai never comments on issues or send replacement parts, with the GX-75 Mazinkiaser had an issues with the chest plate the get broken if you press them wrong but still they didnt react to this
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