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Post by lawlacan on May 28, 2007 11:19:08 GMT -5
Although I am not a fan of Raideen, I probably would buy him. The reason being is that he is part of that old school robot genre. I didn't watch Raideen that much as a kid but I know that his design is one of the most original one. It didn't appeal to me at the time but now as an adult I appreciate his design.
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Post by magengar on May 29, 2007 0:29:59 GMT -5
There's something about the ol'skool super-robots that gave them such visual appeal that has made them so distinctively memorable to this day; their weapons and abilities; and their "godly" appearance" in contrast to their enemy-counterparts. I honestly can't say that about some of the modern-day mechas. zozo-Magengar Although I am not a fan of Raideen, I probably would buy him. The reason being is that he is part of that old school robot genre. I didn't watch Raideen that much as a kid but I know that his design is one of the most original one. It didn't appeal to me at the time but now as an adult I appreciate his design. |
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Post by MechaShiva on May 29, 2007 2:18:08 GMT -5
In total agreement with everyone here--Raideen represents on so many levels--toy nostalgia, cartoon nostalgia and just plain aesthetics...of the kick-ass SAMURAI-GOD variety! (pagan-bird,too) ;D  BTW I just noticed something: The wings seem to be a slightly different shape than any pics I've seen of the old Raideen. Could this be a kind of modern "concession"(F16/18 as opposed to the jets of the 60's/70's)? Any thoughts?? (Regardless of the shape I just noticed that Raideen is probably swing-wing.) ;D Badass! |
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Post by ataru on May 29, 2007 9:59:18 GMT -5
Don't you think the design is more like an egyptian pharaoh? There are loads of samurai-based robots but i don't think Raideen is one of them.
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Post by august on May 29, 2007 10:30:19 GMT -5
According to the series, Raideen is supposed to have been created by the people of the lost continent of Mu, where the ancient Egyptian influence comes in (Raideen's face and motif), but in designing the character, the "helmet" and "armor" are indeed also influenced by Japanese feudal-period armor. An evocative synthesis, I think. As for the wings in the sketch of the upcoming GX-39, I guess we'll have to wait and see what the final product looks like before we can judge if Bandai has fudged with this particular part of the original design. ;D |
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Post by ataru on May 29, 2007 12:09:02 GMT -5
I suppose Raideen does have some samurai-ish aspects to it but for me the egyptian aspects always overpowered them by so much that I didn't really notice. I guess it's because samurai-styled robots are extremely common but I can't think of a single other super robot with egyptian design elements. The helmet is sort of 50/50 kabuto/pharaoh headdress, but then there's that chin.
More than just the wing change, it looks like the legs contract in the God Bird mode for this SOC instead of just bending a bit at the knee. I think they probably decided that they'd try to find a solution for a new god bird mode that wouldn't hurt the appearance of the robot mode with wing covers and such.
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Post by Falconhood on May 29, 2007 17:30:16 GMT -5
i completely love the Egyptian element with Raideen.
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Post by MechaShiva on May 29, 2007 21:04:20 GMT -5
Don't you think the design is more like an egyptian pharaoh? There are loads of samurai-based robots but i don't think Raideen is one of them. Care to edit? ;D Yeah--I'm not blind to the egyptian component. I just failed to mention it in a casual statement.  But August--that Mu reference just made me connect the dots to Rahxephon--which seems to draw some influence from Raideen. Interesting... |
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Post by magengar on May 29, 2007 21:29:10 GMT -5
I just hope Bandai doesn't cut any corners with the GX-39 in Godbird mode... they Gotta keep that original concept with coverwings and all... it would make a Kickass SOC since the Mazzies. As for Raideen's aspects, he's got the best of both worlds... Japanese Samurai, Egyptian Archer... Hey, how many super-robots have ya seen as Archers? I'm surprized Raideen was never treated with such fanfare as Mazinger has. The archer look has always been Perfect for Raideen, that's how I remember him best. Raideen could "sing", so can RahXephon. It's an obvious Mu reference there. Also, you could almost classify Raideen as a 'transformer' because he changes from humanoid mecha, to a bird-like mecha/aircraft. ;D zozo-Magengar I suppose Raideen does have some samurai-ish aspects to it but for me the egyptian aspects always overpowered them by so much that I didn't really notice. I guess it's because samurai-styled robots are extremely common but I can't think of a single other super robot with egyptian design elements. The helmet is sort of 50/50 kabuto/pharaoh headdress, but then there's that chin. More than just the wing change, it looks like the legs contract in the God Bird mode for this SOC instead of just bending a bit at the knee. I think they probably decided that they'd try to find a solution for a new god bird mode that wouldn't hurt the appearance of the robot mode with wing covers and such. |
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Post by MechaShiva on May 29, 2007 21:54:08 GMT -5
Dude--you mentioned "God-Bird" mode just now--I might have to buy doubles! ;D Not to mention a black or gold repaint ( Let us pray..)  |
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Post by KingboyD on May 29, 2007 22:14:05 GMT -5
I suppose Raideen does have some samurai-ish aspects to it but for me the egyptian aspects always overpowered them by so much that I didn't really notice. I guess it's because samurai-styled robots are extremely common but I can't think of a single other super robot with egyptian design elements. I can't think of a more Egyptian-themed robot than Giant Robo!! |
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Post by mazfan on May 29, 2007 22:19:52 GMT -5
Growing up in Daly City (surprise, I am Filipino).... I remember those early 80's KTVU days.
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Post by junktea1 on May 30, 2007 1:48:17 GMT -5
Yes. Marvel Comics was doing a lot of tie-ins with toy companies around this time, and Mattel had just come out with the SHOGUN WARRIORS line of toys, so the book was produced to promote them. Marvel had previous produced a Godzilla comic which ran 24 issues, which also featured a super robot, Red Ronin, which was based on Raideen (since the series was broadcast in NYC in 1976). The comic ran 20 issues from 1978-79 and was written by the same team as the Godzilla comic, writer Doug Moench and artist Herb Trimpe, which featured Raideen, Combatra, and Dangard Ace. Since you seem to be a Raideen expert, what are his powers? Any reason he looks like an egyptian god? Where does the pilot sit? Is there a cockpit or aircraft that enters the robot? Finally, when he transforms, he looks like some sort of eagle. Some background info would be great. |
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Post by hellric on May 30, 2007 2:30:50 GMT -5
I'll watch this thread with huge interest, as Raideen was my favourite robot when I was kid despite the fact that it wasn't aired here in Belgium... I had a small diecast version, now the DX God Reideen, but a SOC Raideen will definitely get my into SOC.
I love the majestic aspect, the enigmatic gaze, the ancestral feeling of that robot, which presents a strong Egyptian influence, and also a totemic presence.
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Post by ataru on May 30, 2007 9:54:35 GMT -5
LOL, I did forget Giant Robo! >MechaShiva Why should I edit the post? I just thought calling Raideen a samurai god was strange. Even with some samurai elements acknowledged it seems weird. How about "majestic samurai birdman?"  |
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Post by stonesunshine on May 30, 2007 10:41:15 GMT -5
Still no pics?  |
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Post by sketcher on May 30, 2007 10:45:03 GMT -5
Yes. Marvel Comics was doing a lot of tie-ins with toy companies around this time, and Mattel had just come out with the SHOGUN WARRIORS line of toys, so the book was produced to promote them. Marvel had previous produced a Godzilla comic which ran 24 issues, which also featured a super robot, Red Ronin, which was based on Raideen (since the series was broadcast in NYC in 1976). The comic ran 20 issues from 1978-79 and was written by the same team as the Godzilla comic, writer Doug Moench and artist Herb Trimpe, which featured Raideen, Combatra, and Dangard Ace. Since you seem to be a Raideen expert, what are his powers? Any reason he looks like an egyptian god? Where does the pilot sit? Is there a cockpit or aircraft that enters the robot? Finally, when he transforms, he looks like some sort of eagle. Some background info would be great. |
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Post by MechaShiva on May 30, 2007 18:44:53 GMT -5
LOL, I did forget Giant Robo! >MechaShiva Why should I edit the post? I just thought calling Raideen a samurai god was strange. Even with some samurai elements acknowledged it seems weird. How about "majestic samurai birdman?" Yeah, I know I goofed. I meant to quote your 2nd post, actually. ;D But you're right-I totally spaced on the Egyptian part. I guess Raideen's coloring always brought it back to the samurai side for me. His shape is definately hybrid, though. Edit: the more I look at him the more Egyptian he gets...(lol). |
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Post by magengar on May 30, 2007 18:56:47 GMT -5
Hey, that's right! Giant Robo looks egyptian-like, too! His headdress and his face... ...now I question: with Mazinger (and Great Maz), it was the whole Greek Mythology trip--- Here, with Raideen (and Giant Robo, respectively) there's the egyptian influence. I wonder how intriguing and alluring it must've been for the Japanese to venture outside their mythological culture and come back with loads of inspiration to create these super-robot characters!  Amazing! zozo-Magengar I suppose Raideen does have some samurai-ish aspects to it but for me the egyptian aspects always overpowered them by so much that I didn't really notice. I guess it's because samurai-styled robots are extremely common but I can't think of a single other super robot with egyptian design elements. I can't think of a more Egyptian-themed robot than Giant Robo!! |
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Post by magengar on May 30, 2007 19:02:43 GMT -5
Here's my MAFD Raideen...  ...just look at him! Even as a mere toy action figure, he has that godly majestic presence! ( This is the Best photoshot I've Ever taken of my Raideen!) zozo-Magengar Still no pics? |
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