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Post by Chen on Feb 25, 2007 10:49:16 GMT -5
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Post by Heer0san on Feb 25, 2007 11:33:45 GMT -5
That's great  . Thanks for the heads-up. |
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Post by Ben-Ohki on Feb 25, 2007 14:49:18 GMT -5
For those who didn't know, the photos are from Winter Wonderfest2007. Same story here... robotechnews.blogspot.com/2007/02/straight-from-japan-another-beta-alpha.htmlAnd regards to the thread about Toynami's "guaging interest" - too little too late. I see history repeating itself if they release it now. Once again hardcore fans will flock to an authentic Japanese product over Toynami's Robotech version of the same thing... anybody want to put money on it?  |
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Post by GDomino on Feb 25, 2007 18:58:09 GMT -5
I'll get this over the Toynami version, and no doubt it'll be better designed, less floppy, and more solid.
CMs just might be the best manufacturer this year with so many nostalgic toys coming down the pipe fom them.
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Post by Chen on Feb 25, 2007 19:33:11 GMT -5
I'm sure the diecast amount will be less than the Toynami ones but for a transforming figure I think Toynami put TOO much diecast in it that also raised prices, although on the other hand I'm sure CM will be asking quite a lot for these figures which will come sold as a Tread/Legioss combination.
Man, what I wouldn't give to see the execs faces at Toynami once they found out about these. This is just another nail in Toynami's coffin.
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Post by GDomino on Feb 25, 2007 19:47:13 GMT -5
Toynami has been gauging interest for the Beta the past 2 years, but it seems that they lost all interested fans to CMs heh heh...
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Post by Omni Existence on Feb 26, 2007 0:02:58 GMT -5
According to MW, this will be the same size as the Toynami ones, but there are several differences on the toy, particularly in terms of articulation, foot size, and the length of the nosecone.
Apparently, the CM's version has a longer nosecone than the stubby one used by Toynami. Me thinks it's going to give the Alpha fighter mode a better look overall than Toynami's broke-back version.
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Post by megatroptimus on Feb 26, 2007 0:18:09 GMT -5
What does the Beta turn into?
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Post by mechaboy1 on Feb 26, 2007 0:36:04 GMT -5
The beta looks fantastic and it comes as a combo, I think I can feel a tear running down my cheek. can't wait.. |
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Post by Ben-Ohki on Feb 26, 2007 7:24:32 GMT -5
What does the Beta turn into? Um... for the uninitiated among us, the Beta turns into a bipedal "robot" mode that sort of looks like something out of Orguss. (no head, just a torso with a cockpit and arms and legs. Although we still don't have any photographic evidence, we can only assume that CM's Mosepeda Beta will transform - if you look carefully at the photos, you notices that it does NOT have retractable hands for vehicle mode and the "fists" just hang there under the wings. But we're seeing a prototype so... who knows, maybe this will change for the final production version. |
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Post by lurkerx on Feb 26, 2007 12:37:02 GMT -5
I for one am more inclined to snub the CM version as I went the toynami route purchasing all four alphas. I'm not going to buy more alphas so I'll patiently wait for toynami's beta [if it ever comes]  besides, basing my experience on owning CM's transformable GGGG, GGG GFG I don't necessarily think it's version of the alpha & beta will be better than toynami's. One thing's for sure though, it'll be more expensive with less die-cast. As for its aethetics & engineering?...I'll reserve judgement either way I really don't want to buy more alphas so i'm passing on CM on a side note, If I were one of those people who bought the original beta for a couple of thousands I'd be going crazy trying to unload it right about now |
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Post by Ben-Ohki on Feb 26, 2007 16:05:12 GMT -5
On a side note, I think it's funny that everybody's so concerned that "it will cost more" and "it will have less die-cast" - and yet this is precisely what happened with the Toynami VF-1 and the Yamato 1/48 VF-1... I told you history repeats itself. |
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Post by 00silvergt on Feb 26, 2007 23:17:53 GMT -5
Ben, I'm confused...Toynami was a piece of camel dung, however it had more diecast content, more gimmicks (eyes light up and the ladder thingy, etc. rubber wheels) than the monkey manure Yamato version which cost more. Both had sucky QA/QC, at least the toynami was easier to come by and she's cheap kinda like the raunchy girls in HS...LOL ;D ;D So, I don't get the point of history?
BTW, this is why diecast content and dazzling lights do not concern me that much, case and point; Toynami!
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Post by mechaboy1 on Feb 27, 2007 0:55:01 GMT -5
So, hows about that baseball team?  |
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Post by 00silvergt on Feb 27, 2007 1:11:58 GMT -5
So, hows about that baseball team? I don't get it? |
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Post by howieh on Feb 27, 2007 7:13:11 GMT -5
Well, it's about time that someone decent picks up the Mospeada line and (hopefully) does it some justice.
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Post by Ben-Ohki on Feb 27, 2007 7:27:02 GMT -5
Ben, I'm confused...Toynami was a piece of camel dung, however it had more diecast content, more gimmicks (eyes light up and the ladder thingy, etc. rubber wheels) than the monkey manure Yamato version which cost more. Both had sucky QA/QC, at least the toynami was easier to come by and she's cheap kinda like the raunchy girls in HS...LOL ;D ;D So, I don't get the point of history? BTW, this is why diecast content and dazzling lights do not concern me that much, case and point; Toynami! I'm not quite sure how anybody qualifies the 1/48 design as a "monkey manure" but it's certainly much nicer than the Toynami POS. The first few iterations, Yamato did have a few problems, but they got better after the retooling. But overall, my point is that the Yamato 1/48, despite having only a single swing-bar as die-cast in the whole thing, was still worth the price compared the job that Toynami did with all their gimmicks. |
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Post by lurkerx on Feb 27, 2007 9:05:32 GMT -5
Ben, I'm confused...Toynami was a piece of camel dung, however it had more diecast content, more gimmicks (eyes light up and the ladder thingy, etc. rubber wheels) than the monkey manure Yamato version which cost more. Both had sucky QA/QC, at least the toynami was easier to come by and she's cheap kinda like the raunchy girls in HS...LOL ;D ;D So, I don't get the point of history? BTW, this is why diecast content and dazzling lights do not concern me that much, case and point; Toynami! I'm not quite sure how anybody qualifies the 1/48 design as a "monkey manure" but it's certainly much nicer than the Toynami POS. The first few iterations, Yamato did have a few problems, but they got better after the retooling. But overall, my point is that the Yamato 1/48, despite having only a single swing-bar as die-cast in the whole thing, was still worth the price compared the job that Toynami did with all their gimmicks. I agree with Ben the 1/48 Yammie is worth the price despite less die-cast & minor QC problems. I wouldn't trade one 1/48 for a hundred MPC toynami VF-1s' If anything the 1/48 "perfect transformation and "tightness" alone is worth its price over the crappy toynami Vf-1 Whether the CM Alpha & beta will ultimately follow in the steps of the yammie 1/48 really remains to be seen. As of now I remain unimpressed with the little CM products that I do own and am quite skeptical that it would be "better enough" for me to purchases it in addition to the toynami I already own |
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Post by 00silvergt on Feb 27, 2007 16:30:19 GMT -5
LOL I did bash on them fairly equally, I am unhappy with either the one, not because of the diecast content, but the price vs the value aspect. I'm sorry, but for the $140 I spent on My YAM 1/48's it could have been better spent on a Medicom Rider or Ultraman...excellent scuplt quality, more durable no QC issues and I don't have to handle it like it is made out of rice paper.
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Post by Fort Max on Feb 27, 2007 16:57:55 GMT -5
Some confirmations from people who were there (Matt Alt of ToyboxDX), both are perfect transformation, it will combine (in both ways I think) and CM's are doing a set of each main colour, i.e. blue, red and green.
He also said it had a lot of pencil markings on it that looked like possible changes to be made so it is early days yet.
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