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Post by richardthebrave on Sept 15, 2011 7:15:19 GMT -5
^i only had time today to post a new sale and i did it from my own home. what's the problem with that? you controlling my life too? are you the one paying for my hospitalization? the sale is for my other hospital fees that i incurred. "If it was sent 2 weeks, I hope to get a refund." - i got this from you. sounds like a scam. like who will pay for shipping the golion back to me if ever EMS or SAL was used? what's the GUARANTEE that you will EVEN SHIP IT BACK? and 2 weeks? you waited for 2 weeks? you waited less than 2 weeks technically. did you not read and we came to an understanding on all the instructions i placed in the thread? negotiations on price? with the pm messages sent back and forth on paypal bank clearing and our problem with paypal charging us both for the transaction??? @admins of this thread i figured to write to you personally to supervise the resolution of a problem and assist me clear my name as a certain "jonwbrew" has started accusing me as a scammer. i am not much of a poster here, but i have been in the boards for quite some time already. older than this "jon" robotjapan.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=RBay&action=display&thread=18393i have pmd you my credentials on this board. i am giving it you guys to personally inspect the inbox and outbox messages that me and jon have been sending each other. ALMOST 80%-90% of my communications with him have screenshots. the transaction did not totally proceed in one day as mentioned above we had negotiations on price, argument on paypal bank clearing, we even suspected each other of cheating over paypal charging us both 3-4% additional fee. i wasn't able to ship out personally because i got hospitalized, but i asked my father to do it for me. i promised him to make it up for it by giving the tracking number this saturday from my father after visiting their place (they do not have a working number now)all i am asking is a benefit of a doubt that i am not a scammer. he opened a dispute today at paypal but he is claiming i never respond there. he just opened it today, how does he expect me to answer asap as i have office to go to in the morning? i havent even posted on other boards yet except messaging him. but to inform you also, paypal dispute has been replied to with also the same answer i gave him, he will get the tracking number on saturday.i am hoping you can help me resolve this. granted i did not deliver as promised, the fact that i am still communicating on this board means i transact here with no malice in mind. thank you very much. |
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Post by moop on Sept 15, 2011 10:37:45 GMT -5
I've got to say that you admit you screwed up by not sticking to the terms and not "delivering as promised". You are behaving in a somewhat sketchy way with some excuses, that while they may be valid, still seem improbable. You can't provide a tracking number until a further date and you also failed to let him know in a timely manner about what was happening. Him opening a dispute is entirely the right thing to do as he needs to make sure you have not scammed him. If you have the proper information for the transaction, a valid tracking number, then Paypal will make sure the case gets closed.
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Post by xTIMMYxCOREx on Sept 15, 2011 12:29:25 GMT -5
^^agreed If it's the one I'm thinking of, it was described as 'new, never played' condition, with a great looking box. Now with vintage, even deadsocks can have issues, but if it's described as new, with no pics showing otherwise, that is what you should expect to get. I would want either a partial refund or, failing that, give negative to warn others, as stated by themazingerz. Yup it was the one that closed about 2 weeks ago. I will take a picture of the blemishes tonight and see what you guys think! |
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Post by richardthebrave on Sept 15, 2011 13:59:10 GMT -5
I've got to say that you admit you screwed up by not sticking to the terms and not "delivering as promised". You are behaving in a somewhat sketchy way with some excuses, that while they may be valid, still seem improbable. You can't provide a tracking number until a further date and you also failed to let him know in a timely manner about what was happening. Him opening a dispute is entirely the right thing to do as he needs to make sure you have not scammed him. If you have the proper information for the transaction, a valid tracking number, then Paypal will make sure the case gets closed. opening disputes can be also be questioned in the manner they were opened. that is what i am challenging now. did you intentionally skipped the parts that he has been painting me in a bad light where the admins here can actually see (because i gave them my login credentials) that i have been keeping they buyer informed most of the time with the transaction and he has been the one who has been acting ERRATIC. the fact that he has been demanding me to ship ASAP via PM without reading ANY of my instructions then were already suspect that he himself might be doing a scam. the money needed to be encashed as proof the account has funds and will have funds by the time the cash was transferred to the local bank here.geez he was even asking detailed descriptions when most of those he asked where already posted in my thread? where in the world do you have a buyer that buys your item and does not read the description first? does not bother to click the pictures and see them magnified more than 10x? - then subsequently questions the items when you are in the process of transacting already. THAT IS IRRITATING. but i stuck with him thinking he is a noob. GAVE HIM THE BENEFIT OF A DOUBT THAT HE MAY BE A LEGIT BUYER. right now i am having second thoughts also on his motive attacking me here, in the related thread, and in my new sales thread trying to twist certain parts of our deal. anyway i opened my login to the admins. they can see everything from there. EVERYTHING including jon's messages to me and my replies to him. that is how i trust the management here that i will get at least a fair "trial" and not a trial by publicity. |
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Post by moop on Sept 15, 2011 14:29:01 GMT -5
Don't attack me dude. You decided to open yourself to this by screaming to the top of your lungs with crazy ramblings and posts that are somewhat incoherent. You look sketchy and it amazes me the amount of times someone pays for something on forums and then the seller magically disappears with some amazingly timed story of "woe is me, life got me down". You seem sketchy and the buyer doesn't.
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Post by mojacko on Sept 15, 2011 14:36:08 GMT -5
if i may, the real answer to this transaction bet Richard and Jon would be the missing "TRACKING NUMBER". if he can produce that on Saturday or ASAPwould be better, then Jon can actually rest assured that the item is on its way, but other than that, they still have to settle something between them.
@ RICHARD is there a way you can communicate with your dad like send him SmS/TxT or something to get the TRACKING NUMBER?
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Post by richardthebrave on Sept 15, 2011 14:51:10 GMT -5
Don't attack me dude. You decided to open yourself to this by screaming to the top of your lungs with crazy ramblings and posts that are somewhat incoherent. You look sketchy and it amazes me the amount of times someone pays for something on forums and then the seller magically disappears with some amazingly timed story of "woe is me, life got me down". You seem sketchy and the buyer doesn't. and leave myself open to attack just by staying silent... are you trying to silence me huh? like who posted the negative comments about me here in the first place and in the other sale thread where it's not supposed to be posted? wasn't it him? am i not allowed to respond back? if i prove myself innocent, CAN YOU GUARANTEE YOURSELF that people will buy from me again? he is already damaging my reputation without giving me a chance to rectify mistakes. can even the admins allow that i attack him later once i prove myself innocent of the "scam" accusation?the best thing you can do is stay neutral and butt out of it, instead of siding with the buyer immediately. |
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Post by moop on Sept 15, 2011 15:08:23 GMT -5
You are wacky dude. I totally believe him now. You are a scammer. You opened yourself t this by posting on an open forum. If you can't understand this then you shouldn't participate in it.
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Post by richardthebrave on Sept 15, 2011 15:13:27 GMT -5
You are wacky dude. I totally believe him now. You are a scammer hahaha see? innocent until proven guilty. i said saturday, and saturday will the tracking number be given. period.you NEVER were part of the transaction so butt out. |
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Post by richardthebrave on Sept 15, 2011 15:16:44 GMT -5
if i may, the real answer to this transaction bet Richard and Jon would be the missing "TRACKING NUMBER". if he can produce that on Saturday or ASAPwould be better, then Jon can actually rest assured that the item is on its way, but other than that, they still have to settle something between them. @ RICHARD is there a way you can communicate with your dad like send him SmS/TxT or something to get the TRACKING NUMBER? as explained in my earlier posts, they have no number now. but as i promised i will get from them the tracking number of the shipment. if i don't give it until Sunday then you guys can conclude that i am a scammer. |
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Post by moop on Sept 15, 2011 17:01:33 GMT -5
You are so erratic and wacky that it's ridiculous. You are proving how crazy you are. Good job scammer.
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Post by xTIMMYxCOREx on Sept 15, 2011 17:04:01 GMT -5
No offense but based on how the seller is so strict about his policies and (IMHO) kinda rude to potential sellers in the copy he wrote I would not even consider buying from him.
I relate it to stores that treat you like you stole something before you even walk in, asking to keep your bag behind the counter. I refuse to patronize those stores.
Also the eBay profile is a buyer only, this is not very good proof you are an honest seller.
Lastly if you make such a big deal about not shipping without a tracking number, why would the seller not be diligent about providing said tracking number. Sketchy.
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Post by moop on Sept 15, 2011 17:23:01 GMT -5
No offense but based on how the seller is so strict about his policies and (IMHO) kinda rude to potential sellers in the copy he wrote I would not even consider buying from him. I relate it to stores that treat you like you stole something before you even walk in, asking to keep your bag behind the counter. I refuse to patronize those stores. Also the eBay profile is a buyer only, this is not very good proof you are an honest seller. Lastly if you make such a big deal about not shipping without a tracking number, why would the seller not be diligent about providing said tracking number. Sketchy. This is exactly what I was getting at. His posts in his sell thread as well as here are erratic and off-putting. His gigantic writing and proclamations in his sell thread go against his mediocre service so how are we not supposed to question his sincerity. The problem is the excuses are tired and old because people always seem to come into some sort of hardship after they've been given a substantial sum of money. Of course we as members of a community have no right to comment on it in the community so what do we know? |
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Post by xTIMMYxCOREx on Sept 15, 2011 19:13:19 GMT -5
Agreed Moop, and additionally any time I have dealt with a great seller who took too long, for whatever reason, or had a product that was not quite what they advertised after second inspection, they offered me some sort of consideration for my troubles with them. FOr instance, I bought a set of train cars from a seller on ebay who listed them as C-10, when he was shipping them he noticed some scratches, emailed me and offered $50 refund if I still want them. I did, and I was beyond happy with his action. On the flip side I did the same for a buyer who bought 4 robots from me, one got damaged in shipping, out of my control, but since he bought so much I gave him a deal on a 5th robot I had that he wanted. Yeah I lost a little money on that 5th one but I got a very nice feedback and I think he even joined RJ and left a nice message in the positive transactions thread. So, yeah, thing beyond our control happen, and sometimes they strangely happen when we seem to receive a ton of money, but you can make good on that with some simple communication and a good will gesture.
Oh and if his parents sent it, and have the tracking number, why can't he get that number? His parents have no way to communicate with him? That's STRANGE. I live across the country from my 75 year old dad and can reach him on phone, email, facetime, or by calling my Mom, Aunt, or his neighbors. It's not hard. But it sure sounds fishy.
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Post by moop on Sept 15, 2011 19:20:06 GMT -5
The good thing is he may have been berated enough into this to actually send the item now so he can "prove" he shipped it. As far as service goes, unfortunately, the buyer is almost always right no matter what the situation and this dude has proved he's less than stellar at his proclaimed "service".
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Post by jonwbrew on Sept 15, 2011 21:04:02 GMT -5
Carmichael(richard the brave), You know....you had such strick rules on when you were going to send. I was more than happy to wait. You said you would ship by EMS. I should have had by now. YOU NEED to uphold you part of the bargin. IF you did not, you should issue a refund for shipping. I am not sure what kind of ethics you have but please do the right thing. Can you call parents for tracking?  ?? DO you not have ethics where you come from?? |
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Post by jonwbrew on Sept 15, 2011 21:12:41 GMT -5
Thank you guys for your support. I am really surprised at his actions. He had certain terms but did not uphold any of them. I already filed with credit card and Paypal. The good thing is he may have been berated enough into this to actually send the item now so he can "prove" he shipped it. As far as service goes, unfortunately, the buyer is almost always right no matter what the situation and this dude has proved he's less than stellar at his proclaimed "service". |
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Sept 15, 2011 22:28:03 GMT -5
Agree. A simple email, tweet, pm/post here, text, phonecall, or some other form of communication letting you know that he had been unable to ship you the item when he agreed to would have been the way to go. And a partial refund for inconveniencing you would've been very nice too. You know, maybe his parents did ship the package for him, but misplaced the receipt with the tracking number, who knows. But regardless, he should've kept you up to date on the shipping status of your stuff. Sometimes things do happen that ruin one's best laid out plans, but it does not take much to communicate it to somebody these days. I hope everything works out fine in the end. ;D
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Post by Elgladiador on Sept 15, 2011 22:30:10 GMT -5
hi, me again
he sent the item trought UPS and declare the toy $200 UK POUNDS.
so customs take notice and are asking us$144.00 in customs fees.
for me is a hard situation. so in the end, if i dont pay customs fees (i wont) the item will return to him,
ohh man, why you dont shipped this trought regular EMS SERVICE?
if the item is returned to you, can you send back to me ,this time trought mail, please?
or go to UPS and declare the value on us$100?
cheers
*write from a 3DS, KB broken*
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Sept 15, 2011 22:41:44 GMT -5
Oh that really sucks! But I don't think he did it to mess with you. I have a feeling he was just declaring the item at its actual value to be able to recuperate that amount in case it got damaged or lost in transit. I know I would do the same if I had to ship such an expensive figure. Customs can be some SOBs at times, but that is really nobody's fault. Even if the box is shipped EMS, it could be hit by Customs. It happens all the time to our Canadian brethren here in R-J...
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