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Post by tetsuryu on Feb 5, 2015 8:17:17 GMT -5
Crap, and I leave LoGH on the list (which is not mecha) and forget Gunbuster (which is). And as far as my favourite is concerned...I can't really choose. The toys have influenced what I've watched quite a bit, and vice versa Zambot 3 is definitely one candidate tho. Ideon and VOTOMS too. But man, I can't even pick a favourite Gundam. War in the Pocket, maybe?
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Post by mecha-mania on Feb 5, 2015 8:23:03 GMT -5
Does Groizer X count as a super robot? Thats about the only robot anime i watched as a kid, i remember i quite enjoy it though. Yep, definitely a super robot. Even if few people (globally) have watched the show, it didn't do very well. I'm interested in it though, I should track it down someday. Mecha-mecha, are you from Brazil? It was broadcasted there, I think. From Singapore. its really one of the few memorable animes during my childhood, the other is gatchaman, but i guess that wont count as super robot.
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Post by S_Gokin on Feb 5, 2015 9:42:49 GMT -5
I ended up writing down all the stuff I've watched, there was so much... Watched: Mazinger Z Great Mazinger UFO Robo Grendizer Mazinkaiser Shin Mazinger Z Getter Robo Getter Robo G Getter Robo Armageddon Shin Getter Robo vs Neo Getter Robo New Getter Robo Everything Votoms Everything Macross Everything Evangelion Everyhing UC Gundam par Unicorn, Victory & G-Saviour Mobile Fighter G Gundam Gundam Wing Gundam X Gundam 00 Zambot 3 Daitarn 3 Combattler V Voltes V Beast King GoLion Dairugger XV Space Runaway Ideon Super Dimensional Cavalry Southern Cross Super Dimensional Century Orguss Orguss 02 Genesis Climber Mospeada Megazone 23 Giant Robo: The Day Earth Stood Still The Big O Tetsujin 28 (2004) Transformers: Headmasters Transformers: Super God Masterforce Transformers: Victory Transformers: Superlink Transformers: Galaxy Force Combat Mecha Xabungle Dougram Heavy Metal L-Gaim Brave Fighter of Sun Fighbird Brave Fighter of Legend Da-Garn Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagaan VIFAM Brave Raideen Legend of the Galactic Heroes Currently watching: Danguard Ace GodMars SPT Layzner And that's just all the stuff with mecha. So yeah, I've kept myself busy. wow thats beyond busy man LOL
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Post by reVolVer on Feb 5, 2015 10:52:41 GMT -5
thats quite a list. i may have watched that many but some of them, i would just start a few initial episodes then skipped to less than a dozen last episodes hehe Transformers also was one my top faves. but its not considered a super robot or even a real robot.
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Post by RoboFestivus on Feb 5, 2015 10:57:50 GMT -5
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Post by tetsuryu on Feb 5, 2015 11:13:54 GMT -5
but its not considered a super robot or even a real robot. Are ya daft man!? It's even titled "Super Robot Life Transformers"!
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Post by reVolVer on Feb 5, 2015 11:21:59 GMT -5
i wont believe in those titles wherein a japanese creator slapping some words on thier franchises for that needed hype and publicity.. i think ill prefer to go as what is defined by established robot categories.. hehehe..
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Post by tetsuryu on Feb 5, 2015 11:57:47 GMT -5
Well it still qualifies as super robot.
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Feb 5, 2015 12:06:55 GMT -5
Well it still qualifies as super robot. I don't know much about the Transformers franchise. But aren't they living beings? Sure, the robot-like body, the vehicle transformations, etc. etc. but if Transformers are living things, they aren't robots. They're people, hehe.
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Feb 5, 2015 12:20:05 GMT -5
They are "Autonomous Robotic Organisms".
Good one. But yes, exactly. They may have robotic bodies, but they are alive, right? You can kill a transformer. You can't kill a robot, you can just destroy/dismantle it. A transformer is autonomous, it has its own memory and personality, it can feel emotions just like us, it can be injured, it can be killed. Just like us.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Feb 5, 2015 13:40:05 GMT -5
Well it still qualifies as super robot. Transformers are not Super Robot. Even their giant combiners and planet sized characters are not Super Robots. That is just how it is. }D
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Post by reVolVer on Feb 5, 2015 14:42:10 GMT -5
Both Super Robots and Real Robots requires human pilots.. therefore they are not sentient or not having thier own thoughts.
wika says...
a Super Robot (スーパーロボット Sūpā Robotto?) is a gigantic robotic, mechanized, or golem-construct, with an arsenal of fantastic super-powered weapons, extreme resistance to damage unless the plot calls for it, sometimes transformable or combined from two or more robots or vehicles usually piloted by young, daring heroes, and often with mystical or legendary origins. This is distinct from a Real Robot, which is a mecha portrayed as a relatively common and plausible item, used by military organizations in the same manner as tanks or aircraft.
Real Robot (リアルロボット Riaru Robotto?) is a genre of Japanese animation.[1][2][3] The genre contains mecha robots whose abilities and operation are broadly explainable by, or grounded in, real-world physics and future technological advances. In addition, operators commonly rely on ranged weapons with projectiles and their machine's agility to survive military-like battle situations.[2] Plotwise, most Real Robot series feature an overarching story and more mature themes in contrast to the "monster of the week" structure seen in productions of the Super Robot genre. A lot of mecha from Real Robot series usually look more utilitarian though this is not the case with hybrid series such as the mecha of Aura Battler Dunbine.
perhaps theres a third category for transformers, gobots and other talking robots..
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Feb 5, 2015 15:23:11 GMT -5
Both Super Robots and Real Robots requires human pilots.. therefore they are not sentient or not having thier own thoughts. wika says... a Super Robot (スーパーロボット Sūpā Robotto?) is a gigantic robotic, mechanized, or golem-construct, with an arsenal of fantastic super-powered weapons, extreme resistance to damage unless the plot calls for it, sometimes transformable or combined from two or more robots or vehicles usually piloted by young, daring heroes, and often with mystical or legendary origins. This is distinct from a Real Robot, which is a mecha portrayed as a relatively common and plausible item, used by military organizations in the same manner as tanks or aircraft. Real Robot (リアルロボット Riaru Robotto?) is a genre of Japanese animation.[1][2][3] The genre contains mecha robots whose abilities and operation are broadly explainable by, or grounded in, real-world physics and future technological advances. In addition, operators commonly rely on ranged weapons with projectiles and their machine's agility to survive military-like battle situations.[2] Plotwise, most Real Robot series feature an overarching story and more mature themes in contrast to the "monster of the week" structure seen in productions of the Super Robot genre. A lot of mecha from Real Robot series usually look more utilitarian though this is not the case with hybrid series such as the mecha of Aura Battler Dunbine. perhaps theres a third category for transformers, gobots and other talking robots.. That sums it up pretty well. Let's not forget what the word "robot" means (again, from Wikipedia): "The word robota means literally "corvée", "serf labor", and figuratively "drudgery" or "hard work" in Czech and also (more general) "work", "labor" in many Slavic languages [...]" There you go. A robot, for me, is a machine capable of doing something better and/or faster than a man would, or even capable of something that we can't even dream of achieving. A robot is a tool, something people use when the need arises, and, as any other tool, a skilled user is required for it to do what's intended to do. That's the logic behind both the super robot and the real robot: the former, wonder machines, artificial titans imbued with unbelievable strength and might, the piloting skills and willpower of their users not less impressive; the latter, pinnacles of human technology, kinda like your beasty tank or awesome stealth fighter of today, are not less impressive machines of destruction. Tool and user form a bond. Transformers? They are practically people! Which does not necessarily mean they're less cool. To each his own.
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Post by treatment on Feb 5, 2015 16:19:15 GMT -5
Yes. Need MOAR!
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Post by reVolVer on Feb 5, 2015 16:20:47 GMT -5
i think for Transformers and thier kind.. ill go for..yeah.. "Autonomous Robotic Organisms" hehe.. sounds cool.. suits them well.. thats why they themselves.. those behind it..the takara people or whatever.. invented that word. Coz they knew back in the 80s its a new genre of robots. its neither super robot or real robot. the rest is history.. the classic series..blockbuster live action movies..etc etc..
so Iron Giant is not a super robot afterall.. (and why hes none on your lists here..i thought hes a favorite) and so is Mighty orbots..lol
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Post by RoboFestivus on Feb 5, 2015 16:30:19 GMT -5
Yes. Need MOAR! LOL...BOAR needs MOAR! Well, here ya go:
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Feb 5, 2015 16:42:43 GMT -5
i think for Transformers and thier kind.. ill go for..yeah.. "Autonomous Robotic Organisms" hehe.. sounds cool.. suits them well.. thats why they themselves.. those behind it..the takara people or whatever.. invented that word. Coz they knew back in the 80s its a new genre of robots. its neither super robot or real robot. the rest is history.. the classic series..blockbuster live action movies..etc etc.. so Iron Giant is not a super robot afterall.. (and why hes none on your lists here..i thought hes a favorite) and so is Mighty orbots..lol OOps. The Iron Giant, yeah, saw that one too. (In fact, I saw it multiple times when I was younger) Well. It is a robot. And again, it is autonomous. But, you know, Transformers did not invent the autonomous robot genre. In fact, it is the oldest genre there is, going as back as that Maria-replica robot in the film Metropolis, by Fritz Lang. That was autonomous (sort of, it obeyed its master, but was able to take secondary decisions by itself and behave just like a normal person). And all those other robots from the B-movies of the 50's and 60's? Those were autonomous. Astroboy is autonomous. Transformers just took it to the next level: bigger, and transformable, for added play value. But the concept itself wasn't groundbreaking. Yeah.
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Post by mpchi on Feb 5, 2015 16:44:10 GMT -5
Watched a lot of Super Robot shows through the years. But the ones that really stands out for me are these few:
Kotetsu Jeeg (The most memorable gimmick of my childhood robot anime shows, waited a few decades later to get a nice gokin of it.) Ideon (Particularly the movies. Love the tragic war story aspect of it, and the mysterious power of Ide.) Shin Getter Robo Armageddon (A very interesting and hot blood revival of a classic bot, which started the trend of classic reboots.) GaoGaiGar Final (Really hot blood heroic stuff!!! Rare example with a cool kid main cast done right, that is not annoying at all.) Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann (Really really over the top hot blood stuff!!! Mixed with some slapstick humor.)
These shows all seem to do something very unique for its time, and stand out more among other very good robot shows of their eras.
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Post by treatment on Feb 5, 2015 16:49:46 GMT -5
Akane Maniax was never released in the US, but it's a frickin' awesome anime: Yeah. It's a precursor to that later mecha-anime called Muv-Luv or something...
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Post by tetsuryu on Feb 6, 2015 2:47:54 GMT -5
Well it still qualifies as super robot. Transformers are not Super Robot. Even their giant combiners and planet sized characters are not Super Robots. That is just how it is. }D They are super robot, end of discussion. Next you'll probably be telling me Braves aren't super robots either despite many of them being sentient. robots or vehicles usually piloted by... Change of emphasis there. I don't know where the hell you guys get your criteria for this stuff, but it's wrong.
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