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Post by TheMazingerZ on Oct 20, 2012 16:33:53 GMT -5
What figure doesn't fall when you knock it? This one:  ;D The stand will be a simple one, like the ones that come with the Fewture Ex Gokin Getters. I'm going to make it out of PVC pipes from Home Depot and a nice piece of wood for the base. It will attach to the Voltron with heavy wire hooks, right under the shoulder connectors.  }D |
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Post by droutmaster on Oct 20, 2012 16:35:46 GMT -5
hey i need some assistance for my friend that manage to receive his Black Lion, could anyone provide a picture of the internal lock system of the yellow lion that locks on the black lions leg? for some strange reason is not connecting at all so i would really appreciate it if anyone can provide it. also warning, do not fiddle with the wing of the black lion to much, the second joint that helps to fold the upper part of the wing is showing some stress mark along side it, perhaps his is a bit to tight. as for Voltron itself looks pretty good, the size is an issue for it because is top heavy (perhaps because the red and green lions are kinda to big or the Yellow and Blue Lions are a bit small or that giant gap on the hips is to much making him go back or forward). the spring feature doesnt really bother me much as i move the joints in a way it wont active a feature. It still does every once and a while with yellow and blue lion, but instead of looking at all the negatives about it, lets look at the postives. Even i thought this figure was going to be a complete disaster and of course if he is just standing in a normal stance hes going to look a little ehh, but once you pose it, just like the post above he comes to life and he is pretty awesome for the height and size. In considering, its not like we are going to play with him like a kid would seeing as we are adult collectors, but i like they made this for not just collectors, but for kids as well imo. The joints stay intact, even if the arms look like they could drop, but its pretty tight in there so far. Theres been times i would test the stability of the connection points just to see if they can easily or accidently come out of place and they stayed in just fine. The price could have been lower and the they could have made a swivel ratchet joint to make the elbows turn(im still wondering if somebody could mod this, would it be possible, but im not going to tarnish my voltron this time lol). Overall i think theyres alot more good about it then bad. the problem in this statement again, this is not for kids and was never meant to be for kids but for the adult collectors as there main target. edit: follow up video of Pixel-Dan of Voltron. |
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Oct 20, 2012 16:45:34 GMT -5
Hmmm... it is a simple spring loaded locking system, like the SOC Mazingers use on their firing fists. The release button is under the lion. Tell him to push the BL leg in all the way and fiddle with the release button. It should lock - unless they forgot to put a spring in it at the factory. My BL wings show no problems at all either. I think your friend got a lemon BL!  }D |
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Post by droutmaster on Oct 20, 2012 17:43:54 GMT -5
yea he tried all that already, he press the button and everything but he is not hearing nor felling the locking, i need a picture to see if everything is in place on the inside before connecting the leg so we can see what is the problem, could you proved me a picture of it if you don't mind?
yea his black lion's wings are to thigh and is showing some stress marks, his not exactly sure if its because when the wings is bend or extended that is causing the problem, the tightness feels the same in either way. however the only point that it doesn't feel to tight is when the wings are only slightly bend in the middle point. Is kinda frustrating for him after all the waiting and the investment he put into this Voltron, and now the problem on the black lion is on its iconic wings, he cannot have it fully open nor close because of the tightens and his afraid it might break.
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Post by xiombarg on Oct 20, 2012 21:19:28 GMT -5
yea he tried all that already, he press the button and everything but he is not hearing nor felling the locking, i need a picture to see if everything is in place on the inside before connecting the leg so we can see what is the problem, could you proved me a picture of it if you don't mind? yea his black lion's wings are to thigh and is showing some stress marks, his not exactly sure if its because when the wings is bend or extended that is causing the problem, the tightness feels the same in either way. however the only point that it doesn't feel to tight is when the wings are only slightly bend in the middle point. Is kinda frustrating for him after all the waiting and the investment he put into this Voltron, and now the problem on the black lion is on its iconic wings, he cannot have it fully open nor close because of the tightens and his afraid it might break. Here is one simple thing to try that you might have already done. Make sure the peg on black lion's foot is NOT pointing straight down. It HAS TO BE ANGLED FORWARD a bit. If it points straight down it will not lock on. If this doesn't work, then look at the inside of the yellow lion and push the button. You should easily be able to see a part that moves up and down when you push the button. If you don't see anything moving when the button is pushed, then the yellow lion has a problem. Also, is the yellow lion's button loose? Like if you shake the lion does the button rattle in and out freely? If so then something is wrong with the spring. But otherwise if you can see the part moving up and down inside the yellow lion when you push the button, then you just haven't connected the black lion properly. |
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Post by xiombarg on Oct 20, 2012 21:45:21 GMT -5
One more thing I should mention. You have to push the blue and yellow lions all the way up to the very bottom of the black lion's knee joint, otherwise it's not really locked on the way it's supposed to be. It's easy to think that you've pushed it far enough because the lions will catch at a certain point, but you have to push them all the way up to the very base of where the black lion knee hinge starts. And you might have to push a little harder than would seem necessary.
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Post by droutmaster on Oct 20, 2012 23:05:24 GMT -5
The Blue Lion locks in place fine and you can hear the click sound, the yellow lion is the one that is not locking in place. Ill tell him tomorrow about what you said to check it if he sees any movement inside and if the button feels loose or something, but ill not be able to post here till monday to tell you about it, going to a family activity.
Im crossing fingers that its something stupid, i mean this lions are not cheap and if the yellow lion is defective from the start then he might have to buy a new Yellow Lion which that would suck.
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Post by springloaded on Oct 21, 2012 9:31:44 GMT -5
springloaded, if you don't like it why don't you just sell it on Ebay? Now is the time to do it. I don't hate everything about it, but there's so many F ups across the board that it's hard for me to have a very positive outlook on it. At the end of the day I am a big Voltron fan, so despite its flaws I will keep it. I find that I'm happiest with it when the lions are separated. Aesthetically speaking pretty much all of my problems are with the combined Voltron. The head reminds me of a special needs kid in a helmet compared to the anime and the wonderful Toynami sculpt  The way the legs fold up on the arm lions look like a mess compared to Toynami's, and pretty much every other Voltron aside from Panosh Place's.  The belt buckle is the wrong shape. It's always been rectangular, but here it's square. Even Panosh Place got that right.  As individual lions I also don't have to worry about the balance issues. So yeah... mine will end up staying like that most of the time.  |
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Oct 21, 2012 11:01:52 GMT -5
LOL! All the Voltron figures, with the exception of Mattel's Blazing Sword Voltron and Jumbo Shogun Warrior Voltron, look nothing like the anime Voltron. The Popy/Godaikin/bootleg Voltron looks like a squished fat Voltron. The Toynamy Voltron, while very nice overall, looks like a starving Voltron. The Panosh Voltron doesn't even look like Voltron. The giant Trendmaster's Voltron is right up there with Panosh. Why do some folks aways bring up pictures of the anime Voltron for comparison to the actual figures is just weird. I think that there are only three companies that can pull off a very anime accurate combining Voltron/Golion. A Voltron that can first of all, hide the lions' legs when in Voltron form, and second, be very articulated even when combined. Those companies are Bandai, Miracle Productions, and CM's. Other than that, good luck on ever seeing a true anime accurate combiner Voltron. }D |
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Post by droutmaster on Oct 23, 2012 20:51:45 GMT -5
well im back and with some sad news from my friend, the yellow lions inside is not moving when he press the button.
right now his kinda piss and frustrated, he doesn't even know if he should buy a new yellow lion or just leave it as is and display them as lions. =(
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Post by xiombarg on Oct 24, 2012 0:10:03 GMT -5
well im back and with some sad news from my friend, the yellow lions inside is not moving when he press the button. right now his kinda piss and frustrated, he doesn't even know if he should buy a new yellow lion or just leave it as is and display them as lions. =( Sorry to hear that. Makes me curious what's wrong with it. Did you happen to ask him whether the button is sitting loose? If so, then it's something with the spring, but if the button still feels like there is tension when it's pushed then the spring is there but something isn't connected properly with the mechanism. Either way, if only there was a simple way to get into these things, because I'll bet it would be a simple fix. |
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Post by droutmaster on Oct 24, 2012 1:09:21 GMT -5
im going to his house tomorrow, ill see the yellow lion to have a look at the problem.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Oct 24, 2012 1:21:32 GMT -5
Crack it open... it is not working already! There will be some damage, but if he does it gently and takes his time, the damage may be minimal and easily concealed. If it was my lion, I would've cracked it open on day one. ;D
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Post by xiombarg on Oct 24, 2012 11:33:30 GMT -5
One thing you can do is look through the back and stick a pencil in there to check and see if the "moving latch" is there. It should be the only visible movable part.
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Post by droutmaster on Oct 24, 2012 21:36:29 GMT -5
well after coming back from my friend's house and not having electricity all day, i got news of the matter the Yellow Lion has been fix in the most scariest way possible that you could imagine, he gave me the Yellow Lion to check on it. I press the button and the button its working fine because i could feel some pressure of it, then i check on the internal piece to see if it moves which it didn't but i saw that it was stuck on some kind of residue of glue(?). so i applied a bit of pressure to try and pull the piece out(because it was stuck in) and the most horrendous SNAP was made, My friends face was like all =( and change into  (). after we heard the snap we check if it starts to move and well now it does and we made the leg test and now is holding in place so yay one problem solve now to fix the issue of the black lions wing, when he said he had some stress marks i thought it was something serious and well is not a big deal of a stress mark, its not noticeable unless you look for it, but the wings are way to tight for what it needs to be and in the long run i feel it could break in some point of how ridiculous of how tight it is. So any good tip to fix the wing? im thinking a bit of fine sandpaper and a small drill piece to clean up a bit the hole to see if the problem is solve. |
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Post by xiombarg on Oct 25, 2012 0:31:54 GMT -5
well after coming back from my friend's house and not having electricity all day, i got news of the matter the Yellow Lion has been fix in the most scariest way possible that you could imagine, he gave me the Yellow Lion to check on it. I press the button and the button its working fine because i could feel some pressure of it, then i check on the internal piece to see if it moves which it didn't but i saw that it was stuck on some kind of residue of glue(?). so i applied a bit of pressure to try and pull the piece out(because it was stuck in) and the most horrendous SNAP was made, My friends face was like all =( and change into (). after we heard the snap we check if it starts to move and well now it does and we made the leg test and now is holding in place so yay one problem solve now to fix the issue of the black lions wing, when he said he had some stress marks i thought it was something serious and well is not a big deal of a stress mark, its not noticeable unless you look for it, but the wings are way to tight for what it needs to be and in the long run i feel it could break in some point of how ridiculous of how tight it is. So any good tip to fix the wing? im thinking a bit of fine sandpaper and a small drill piece to clean up a bit the hole to see if the problem is solve. Glad to hear the yellow lion worked out. What a relief! As far as the black lion wing goes, just be careful that you don't over do it. The last thing you want is for it to end up loose and floppy so that it doesn't hold in place. You might just try working it slowly back and forth a couple dozen times and see if it will wear down a bit. |
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Post by droutmaster on Oct 25, 2012 18:10:44 GMT -5
that the thing moving the wings a couple of times is not something that i would like to do, its so stiff or tight that im almost thinking it has glue. im gonna go to his house this Saturday to help him out about the wing issue. his not gonna be at his home till tomorrow, so it would be much easier to check calmly.
i told him to leave the black lion untouched for now so not to risk the wing piece for any more stress marks.
btw Atom from collection DX made like an update video for his soon to come his Black Lion review.
see how nice his Black Lion's wings fold? my friends black Lion wings are to ridiculous tight.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2012 18:23:12 GMT -5
So did he get the subscription thing sorted out?
Or he had to purchase it at Matty Collector on 10/15?
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Post by droutmaster on Oct 25, 2012 21:47:54 GMT -5
i have no idea if he did
btw his video of forming voltron
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Post by actionawesome on Oct 25, 2012 23:28:38 GMT -5
The review explains what happened.
Ugh his face sculpt is so...doughy?
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