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Post by mrclean08 on Apr 24, 2014 22:32:10 GMT -5
I'm hoping I can save up enough to get this. I don't have any of the toynami versions yet so I won't feel like it's a waste. I like the way it looks. It be nice to put him next to my Trendmasters version as I like the more Anime correct versions as well as the original styles. Unfortunately I'm trying to start my Chogokin collection and I'm really eyeing Trider G7 and Daltanious. Too many toys not enough money! Thing is this junk heap isnt anime correct ! Trider G-7 IS!! so go with that or the pretty close to anime correct,(besides the hanging lion legs) Daltanious.No offense guys but what has toynami ever made that fits a professional collection? ......crickets..........I consider my collection professional,and anything "amateur" just has no place in it. The Toynami MP Robotech Cyclones that were really produced by Beagle fit a professional collection.  lol All jokes aside, actually the only piece that comes to mind from them that fits a professional collection are the Robotech Masterpiece Beta's. But they made the Alpha's so awful, that it's kinda hard to appreciate the combined product of a sh*tty Alpha and stellar Beta. Other than that, everything else that Toynami has made is meh. That being said, I did order this 30th Voltron. Why? I did not get the 20th anniversary or any of the plastic or Reebok versions of this figure. I actually was against this figure for years, but after receiving and displaying my Miracle Productions Vehicle Voltron and Dynamite Action Albegas, I have that itchy missing void of a modernized Voltron. And plus the fact that I have painfully accepted, and absolutely strongly believe that we WILL NEVER EVER EVER get a SOC Golion from Bandai because WEP loves to just jack us off every year and blue ball us. Will I like this 30th Voltron? Will I hate it? I really don't know, but I'll find out tomorrow when it is delivered. I feel like a guy whose dream was to someday own a Ferrari, but finally just settled for a Saturn because the Ferrari dream is officially murdered. But hey, it's something, and I guess it's better than having no transportation at all. |
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Post by dudleydrulert on Apr 25, 2014 10:30:45 GMT -5
We collectors collect what we like -- "professional" or otherwise.
I like Toynami's Masterpiece/20th/30th/ad-infinitemeth Lion Force Voltron mold. It has flaws, but it looks nice, if a bit anorexic in the hips and thighs. I'm just not buying because, although the price is fair, it's more than I'm willing to spend.
As with almost any transforming toy tied to any animated cartoon, I can't imagine any transforming toy of Lion Force Voltron being "animation-accurate," because of those pesky legs of Red, Green, Blue and Yellow Lions, the necks of all five lions, the animation magic of changing proportions during transformation, and the animation tricks used to articulate the lions and robot in various ways.
As for a Bandai or Soul of Chogokin LV... WEP can't force a company to make a product, WEP has to honor its licensing agreements with other firms, and it's insensible for WEP and a licensee to come to terms that don't profit WEP. We have no idea what negotiations might have taken place between WEP and Bandai, or what circumstances might have led to a Bandai product not getting made. I'm not sure what substantial grounds exist for villifying WEP over the lack of a Bandai product.
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Apr 25, 2014 12:42:22 GMT -5
Anime accuracy can only be achieved by "parts swapping", which I am more than perfectly fine with. I'm not getting this Toynami Voltron because I already have two of the original MPs, the original plastic version, and the metallic plastic version. I'm not fond of the "Twiggy" sculpt on this Voltron, but until someone makes a better looking one, this is all we have as far as a modern diecast combiner Lion Voltron.  }D |
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Post by willy1603 on Apr 25, 2014 12:45:41 GMT -5
just sharing, has just arrived arrived today I don't have any voltron from toynami, this one are diecast, its just the same like 20th edition, am I right? I don't know the differences with 20th edition, all I know just the lights up and the display stand for voltron. IMHO not bad at all..  this one for the display, I upload it on youtube |
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Post by mrclean08 on Apr 25, 2014 13:33:19 GMT -5
...As for a Bandai or Soul of Chogokin LV... WEP can't force a company to make a product, WEP has to honor its licensing agreements with other firms, and it's insensible for WEP and a licensee to come to terms that don't profit WEP. We have no idea what negotiations might have taken place between WEP and Bandai, or what circumstances might have led to a Bandai product not getting made. I'm not sure what substantial grounds exist for villifying WEP over the lack of a Bandai product. It has nothing to do with WEP forcing a company to make a product. It's about them blocking the opportunity for Bandai to be licensed to produce an SOC Golion. Bandai has clearly communicated their interest in wanting to produce an SOC Golion; however, for whatever reason WEP did not allow them to, especially when there were rumors that the deal was close to be made recently before the Toynami deal happened. So I am operating on substantial grounds for villifying WEP over the lack of this Bandai product. |
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Post by kamenrider on Apr 25, 2014 14:03:11 GMT -5
Bandai won't make a SOC Golion because of all the drama between WEP and Toei. It has nothing to do with WEP/classic media turning them down.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2014 14:53:54 GMT -5
Last year, Bandai was in negotiation with WEP/Classic Media for the Voltron license.
Bandai did express interest, and it seemed that the deal was close to be done.
But then out of no where Toynami got the License.
Whatever happened for Bandai not getting the license is for Bandai & WEP/Classic Media to know and for us to speculate.
I honestly do not see the point of involving Toei in this. Whatever happened between Toei and WEP was already resolved in court.
Like I mentioned in another post if Toei really wants Go Lion, Dairugger XV and Bismark licenses back, then Toei should right out buy WEP.
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Post by mrclean08 on Apr 25, 2014 15:28:54 GMT -5
Last year, Bandai was in negotiation with WEP/Classic Media for the Voltron license. Bandai did express interest, and it seemed that the deal was close to be done. But then out of no where Toynami got the License. Whatever happened for Bandai not getting the license is for Bandai & WEP/Classic Media to know and for us to speculate. I honestly do not see the point of involving Toei in this. Whatever happened between Toei and WEP was already resolved in court. Like I mentioned in another post if Toei really wants Go Lion, Dairugger XV and Bismark licenses back, then Toei should right out buy WEP. Interesting. Does Toei have the capital power to buy WEP out? I would love to see that happen. Willy1603, great shot by the way. |
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Post by kamenrider on Apr 25, 2014 15:54:42 GMT -5
Toei is the Walt Disney of japan so that alone should tell you how they are financial wise. That's also why Bandai would never step on their toes. A good chunk of Bandai's rev comes from Toei properties. Also I don't believe it was ever confirmed Bandai was negotiating with WEP/Classic media. Unless theirs an official account from either party that I'm not aware of.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2014 16:14:36 GMT -5
Look at last year's CDX Toy Fair coverage.
It was announced that Bandai was in talks with WEP.
In fact, the deal was so close that CDX could not make a statement waiting for final word that the deal was done.
Don't you remember that CDX show in which Adam and Josh were teasing about a special announcement that they could not make but were looking at the Lion Voltron?
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Post by kamenrider on Apr 25, 2014 16:31:54 GMT -5
I thought it was SDCC? Either one they only heard it from a booth rep. I highly doubt they'd know what would be going on behind the scenes.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2014 16:34:51 GMT -5
You might be right about SDCC.
Either way they do have close relationships with such rep, as this is the same rep that gave them other Bandai/Bluefin information. So they were getting "solid" info.
As to what happened behind closed doors, as I said it is for Bandai & WEP to know and for us to speculate.
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Post by B- on Apr 25, 2014 18:14:27 GMT -5
just sharing, has just arrived arrived today I don't have any voltron from toynami, this one are diecast, its just the same like 20th edition, am I right? I don't know the differences with 20th edition, all I know just the lights up and the display stand for voltron. IMHO not bad at all.. this one for the display, I upload it on youtube First pic of this Ive seen that doesnt look half bad! There is no differences really in sculpt? hmmm |
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Apr 25, 2014 18:33:04 GMT -5
It's because of the dark background. Put it in front of a lighter background and the story changes quickly... }D |
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Post by marvabetic on Apr 25, 2014 19:52:43 GMT -5
Thanks for the heads up guys. I'm late in the game collecting Chogokins and trying to get older ones is really pricey. I'm eyeing my first 150-200 purchase since I'm probobly gonna pass on this one and the Miracle Vehicle Voltron didn't come out so well.
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Post by dudleydrulert on Apr 25, 2014 21:57:47 GMT -5
...As for a Bandai or Soul of Chogokin LV... WEP can't force a company to make a product, WEP has to honor its licensing agreements with other firms, and it's insensible for WEP and a licensee to come to terms that don't profit WEP. We have no idea what negotiations might have taken place between WEP and Bandai, or what circumstances might have led to a Bandai product not getting made. I'm not sure what substantial grounds exist for villifying WEP over the lack of a Bandai product. It has nothing to do with WEP forcing a company to make a product. It's about them blocking the opportunity for Bandai to be licensed to produce an SOC Golion. Bandai has clearly communicated their interest in wanting to produce an SOC Golion; however, for whatever reason WEP did not allow them to, especially when there were rumors that the deal was close to be made recently before the Toynami deal happened. So I am operating on substantial grounds for villifying WEP over the lack of this Bandai product. Then we agree to disagree.  |
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Post by chachipower on Apr 25, 2014 22:52:56 GMT -5
I thought it was SDCC? Either one they only heard it from a booth rep. I highly doubt they'd know what would be going on behind the scenes. Weve known about it for a couple of years. It was at Toy Fair. I work with CDX and there is a lot of behind the scenes stuff, some booth reps are directly responsible for what gets made and what doesn't, more than you could imagine. Of course I dont mean to say I know everything. I think people freak out because fans dont know for sure what happened with Bandai and why Toynami is doing what its doing, but there really are reasons and those reasons could come to light if CDX would be allowed to share it. I leave every Tamashii appointment with a wealth of information that I as a fan find incredible but unless they give the green light, we keep our mouth shut. Lets just enjoy what we can get even if it is a rerelease of this MP Voltron. Its so easy really. If you dont like it, dont buy it, no need to make it sound like a piece of crap although everyone is entitled to an opinion, my opinion is that the negativity stems more from disappoinment than from the figure actually being bad. I hope this figure does good for Toynami, it can only mean more things can become available while they have the license. That makes sense and its all I can say about that. And believe me, I am one of those people that first heard about the Bandai Golion rumors a while back and then was left all confused when it didnt happen. |
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Post by nikodiablo on Apr 26, 2014 0:02:14 GMT -5
So, does the 30th anniversary edition version features improved joints as advertised?
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Post by jay27 on Apr 26, 2014 8:07:45 GMT -5
Looks great can't wait for mine |
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Post by willy1603 on Apr 26, 2014 22:51:52 GMT -5
So, does the 30th anniversary edition version features improved joints as advertised? too bad, there are no improvement for the joints, they are the same with 20th & 25th. the differences is only eye lights and display stand. so, if you already have 20th version, no need to buy it, just waste your money IMHO. 25th edition are plastic, 20th and 30th are diecast, maybe you just wait the 35th/ 40th edition? hehehehe |
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