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Post by xiombarg on Jul 19, 2013 1:14:55 GMT -5
Wow are you really asking me to compare my proportions to that of a fictional giant robot? Hmm let me check. Wow u are right my hands ARE smaller that my feet! Good point! A giant robot that is anthropomorphized. As almost are mecha are to some degree. I can't think of any bipedal robots that have arms as big as their legs. Srungle is close. Not the most limber looking fellow. www.collectiondx.com/gallery2/gallery/d/558586-3/srungle+box+inside.jpg
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Post by xtrlowz75 on Jul 19, 2013 1:31:46 GMT -5
If its diecast, it will tank the value of the 20th version a bit. I hope not. Please make it plastic Toynami, to keep my 20th version that more special and really limited.
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Post by Mr. Roboto on Jul 19, 2013 2:44:26 GMT -5
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Post by willy1603 on Jul 19, 2013 2:57:49 GMT -5
No, you were right ky. I noticed it too.. and I saw other golion with white stripe on their wings, but I couldn't find it on toynami version.
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Post by voltes on Jul 19, 2013 6:10:53 GMT -5
Ok, i think the toynami version was great for its time, but now we need something that portrays how golion was designed in the anime. Im sorry, but we have had so many reissues of the figure and light up eyes and weapons is the only thing added? May be a pass for me. I really would like toynami to change the sclupt a little bit(legs alittle more thicker so it looks more accurate, black lion having white thighs instead of black, chest peice connecting more flush so where if you move an arm the whole chest wont move with it,etc(i got alot of things)). From the pic, it seems like the wings were changed a bit. I think if they make a slightly new sclupt(more anime accurate) then id be happy with the purchase. light up eyes are sorta cool lol.
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Post by kamenrider on Jul 19, 2013 7:26:08 GMT -5
If its diecast, it will tank the value of the 20th version a bit. I hope not. Please make it plastic Toynami, to keep my 20th version that more special and really limited. How utterly selfish.
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Post by kingdom2000toys on Jul 19, 2013 7:57:57 GMT -5
Ok, i think the toynami version was great for its time, but now we need something that portrays how golion was designed in the anime. Im sorry, but we have had so many reissues of the figure and light up eyes and weapons is the only thing added? May be a pass for me. I really would like toynami to change the sclupt a little bit(legs alittle more thicker so it looks more accurate, black lion having white thighs instead of black, chest peice connecting more flush so where if you move an arm the whole chest wont move with it,etc(i got alot of things)). From the pic, it seems like the wings were changed a bit. I think if they make a slightly new sclupt(more anime accurate) then id be happy with the purchase. light up eyes are sorta cool lol. Ya... I'm for something NEW & DIFFERENT. All the various releases of Voltron through the years, have had good things about them. But the biggest thing has been design change. Back then 20th Anni was sweet. And a good update to the original toys. I love it for those reasons. But the 25th anni Plastic and the Reebok version are basically the same design - difficult to tell apart when put together in a picture. Design changes should differentiate the toy from previous version. New Molds and details. This version seems to use a lot of the same molds. For example - The Mattel Voltron was a Giant. The 25 anny had a slimmer Black Lion, so it looked not as "boxy" "blocky" in Voltron mode. Only thing drawing my attention here is the BASE.
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Post by shaider on Jul 19, 2013 8:51:38 GMT -5
My biggest gripe is how have they not made a more accurate Blazing Sword yet?
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Post by Qball99 on Jul 19, 2013 13:18:57 GMT -5
Anyone get a chance to swing by the show and get an update on this? Diecast vs Plastic? Release date? Cost? I'll take 2! 4 if it's plastic and $50.00......
Just to throw in my two cents about this figure. Every figure has it's flaws, but to me this was the best sculpted Voltron to date. I'm not a fan of the older bulky looking ones where Voltron looked as if he would be trip over himself before smashing a robeast. LOL
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Post by ninjahandz on Jul 19, 2013 13:25:16 GMT -5
If its diecast, it will tank the value of the 20th version a bit. I hope not. Please make it plastic Toynami, to keep my 20th version that more special and really limited. How utterly selfish. I don't think he is selfish. He paid a truckload of cash and it's unfair to see his investment tank. Specially when unlike others, he did support the project back then. This new release is all because loyal customers supported the previous one. To give an improved version to the ones who didn't support them back then is nothing but a giant middle finger to the ones who did support them. How would you feel if you drop a wad of cash on an item just to see an improved version down the line that makes your purchase a complete waste if money? I paid for the CMS Genesic GaoGaiGar, first release of masterpiece starscream and Optimus Prime just to see improved versions down the line that made all those purchases obsolete... So yeah, fans who support a project first should get the best in my opinion, not the other way around
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Post by erikla on Jul 19, 2013 13:30:34 GMT -5
I don't think he is selfish. He paid a truckload of cash and it's unfair to see his investment tank. Specially when unlike others, he did support the project back then. This new release is all because loyal customers supported the previous one. To give an improved version to the ones who didn't support them back then is nothing but a giant middle finger to the ones who did support them. How would you feel if you drop a wad of cash on an item just to see an improved version down the line that makes your purchase a complete waste if money? I paid for the CMS Genesic GaoGaiGar, first release of masterpiece starscream and Optimus Prime just to see improved versions down the line that made all those purchases obsolete... So yeah, fans who support a project first should get the best in my opinion, not the other way around As time passes technology improves. It's not selfish it's just ignorant - do we all really want these releases to get worse? No, we want better and better versions to come out. It's about personal value not resale value, we are collectors not resellers. If you want return on your investment go dabble in the stock market. For me even if a better version comes out the one i own still has sentimental value. There will always be a better version that comes out!
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Post by demonseed on Jul 19, 2013 14:38:16 GMT -5
If its diecast, it will tank the value of the 20th version a bit. I hope not. Please make it plastic Toynami, to keep my 20th version that more special and really limited. How utterly selfish. Call it what you will, its reality. A fact. We all collect for different reasons, but I doubt any of us want to see out items lose value.
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Post by xtrlowz75 on Jul 19, 2013 14:40:21 GMT -5
All I have to say is the Combattler GX-03 vs. GX-50. GX-50 tanked the GX-03. I'm not being totally selfish, just want my "Limited Numbered Edition" to remain that, limited, and not fall to the likes of the GX-03. But, I understand business is business. If Toynami has the demand by fans, they're going to attempt to capitalize. Voltron has been popular for 30+ years now , not including the prior named Golion. Superman has been popular for nearly 74 years, is a multi-billion dollar character, and the most popular super hero ever. Why not continue to push Voltron as it is the single most popular robot hero ever, and stands to make just as much money when it reaches 70+ years. I'm no selfish fool, I just like owning a truely awesome and limited Voltron
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Post by locidm on Jul 19, 2013 14:57:01 GMT -5
No worries bro yours will still be limited. It will be the only version with diecast, NO light up eyes, and NO key accessories.
Black getter all over again.
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Post by surlyj on Jul 19, 2013 15:16:25 GMT -5
I don't think he is selfish. He paid a truckload of cash and it's unfair to see his investment tank. Specially when unlike others, he did support the project back then. This new release is all because loyal customers supported the previous one. To give an improved version to the ones who didn't support them back then is nothing but a giant middle finger to the ones who did support them. How would you feel if you drop a wad of cash on an item just to see an improved version down the line that makes your purchase a complete waste if money? I paid for the CMS Genesic GaoGaiGar, first release of masterpiece starscream and Optimus Prime just to see improved versions down the line that made all those purchases obsolete... So yeah, fans who support a project first should get the best in my opinion, not the other way around Unfortunately that's not how things like time work. First tries are rarely superior to second and third efforts. With the MP transformers it's not like Takara made purposefully inferior molds at first. They made what they thought was the best at the time, and it was. Then, with fan reaction and them sitting for a few years figured out ways to make them better. So what, they shouldn't improve them so that the first version remains the best? Nothing works that way. Nor should it. ,
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Post by ninjahandz on Jul 19, 2013 15:52:29 GMT -5
I don't think he is selfish. He paid a truckload of cash and it's unfair to see his investment tank. Specially when unlike others, he did support the project back then. This new release is all because loyal customers supported the previous one. To give an improved version to the ones who didn't support them back then is nothing but a giant middle finger to the ones who did support them. How would you feel if you drop a wad of cash on an item just to see an improved version down the line that makes your purchase a complete waste if money? I paid for the CMS Genesic GaoGaiGar, first release of masterpiece starscream and Optimus Prime just to see improved versions down the line that made all those purchases obsolete... So yeah, fans who support a project first should get the best in my opinion, not the other way around Unfortunately that's not how things like time work. First tries are rarely superior to second and third efforts. With the MP transformers it's not like Takara made purposefully inferior molds at first. They made what they thought was the best at the time, and it was. Then, with fan reaction and them sitting for a few years figured out ways to make them better. So what, they shouldn't improve them so that the first version remains the best? Nothing works that way. Nor should it. , Not talking about improved releases. I am talking about buying 6 Mazinkaisers just to see the company resell the EXACT same figure later with a Dr Hell mini figure and extra sword. How about buying all 3 Fewture Getters in incorrect colors just to see them rerelease the EXACT same figures in correct colors plus the missing pedestals for the Getta machines for a lower price? Improved versions are inevitable and even welcomed, but releasing the EXACT same figures with better colors and more accesories IS a slap in the face to loyal collectors What would happen if we ALL skip the initial release to wait for the corrected version? You have a loyal group that funds your company by preordering and throwing cash at you, why do you give those who don't support you a better version? How would you all feel if Bandai anounces a second release of the DX mazinger WITH extra gimmicks, sounds, mini Koji figure and corrected elbows now? I rest my case
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Post by Chen on Jul 19, 2013 16:06:11 GMT -5
It's the nature of the beast, you buy what you want at that moment. You could wait for a improved version that could come out and if not your stuck buying on the secondary market at inflated prices what you should have bought in the first place. I could care less if a better version of a certain toy comes out if I'm happy with the one I already have. Monetary value of my collection means little to nothing to me because I know when I die my collection will either end up in a garage sale or the dump because no one I know holds any value for it. I do not buy limited items because I wanted to be part of a certain "privileged" few who got it also, I could care less if I have a toy that's 1 of 1 or 1 of 1 million, I buy toys because I like it and get personal satisfaction from it. You either spend a lot or little, but in all reality when adults are spending money on toys for themselves then your basically throwing it away on items you honestly don't really need.
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Post by demonseed on Jul 19, 2013 16:08:48 GMT -5
I don't think he is selfish. He paid a truckload of cash and it's unfair to see his investment tank. Specially when unlike others, he did support the project back then. This new release is all because loyal customers supported the previous one. To give an improved version to the ones who didn't support them back then is nothing but a giant middle finger to the ones who did support them. How would you feel if you drop a wad of cash on an item just to see an improved version down the line that makes your purchase a complete waste if money? I paid for the CMS Genesic GaoGaiGar, first release of masterpiece starscream and Optimus Prime just to see improved versions down the line that made all those purchases obsolete... So yeah, fans who support a project first should get the best in my opinion, not the other way around Unfortunately that's not how things like time work. First tries are rarely superior to second and third efforts. With the MP transformers it's not like Takara made purposefully inferior molds at first. They made what they thought was the best at the time, and it was. Then, with fan reaction and them sitting for a few years figured out ways to make them better. So what, they shouldn't improve them so that the first version remains the best? Nothing works that way. Nor should it. , So you'd be happy with never getting a new toy/mold and only getting improved versions of toys you already have? Do we even know if they improved anything besides adding lights? And maybe adding a stand that was also designed 8 years ago. The only people happy about this are the ones that didn't get the orig, which is understandable. I just don't understand how they can't see the other side of it. The gx-03 gx-50 point that was made is perfect. Is something collectable if they just keep reissuing it?! Its not like the original was horrible and we needed a reissue (something you could argue with gx-03/50) Seems most fans wanted a new figure, not this.
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Post by erikla on Jul 19, 2013 16:19:08 GMT -5
I'm totally happy with my gx-03 and have a ton of fun playing with it. The gx-50 is nice but I'd never trade it for the memories I have with my gx-03. But I think we can all relate to the frustration. It just comes down to accepting the nature of the beast - our desires will always be second to the manufacturers bottom line. In rare circumstances those two come together and we get a beautiful toy at a great price. A good collector identifies those opportunities and jumps on it quick
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Post by ninjahandz on Jul 19, 2013 16:27:04 GMT -5
Unfortunately that's not how things like time work. First tries are rarely superior to second and third efforts. With the MP transformers it's not like Takara made purposefully inferior molds at first. They made what they thought was the best at the time, and it was. Then, with fan reaction and them sitting for a few years figured out ways to make them better. So what, they shouldn't improve them so that the first version remains the best? Nothing works that way. Nor should it. , So you'd be happy with never getting a new toy/mold and only getting improved versions of toys you already have? Do we even know if they improved anything besides adding lights? And maybe adding a stand that was also designed 8 years ago Actually, I said the complete oposite. I don't mind new toys. What I don't agree with is rehasing the same toy with just a few mods or extra items. This isn't rocket science, what part exactly do you not understand about this? You paid for a Voltron $300 and now they are releasing the same figure with a base, lights and who knows what else for $300. Meaning you are either stock with the figure minus the extra parts or you have to shell out $600 This is simple, how come you guys can't grasp such a simple concept? Nobody likes getting short changed in a deal. If you buy a car, you don't want to see the company selling the EXACT same car with free GPS and free leather seats for the exact same price you paid 2 months later.
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