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Post by MegaPrime316 on Feb 2, 2015 19:04:31 GMT -5
For a Titan Class I was expecting something along the same quality of Metroplex, this Devestator, to me anyway, seems to fall way short. Proportions seem to be off and the hands and forearms look to be a solid part. Doesn't look like he has any finger articulation and when you look at the treads they are not even painted, just molded in color. Kinda reminds me of a KO TFC Hercules. Maybe a 3rd party somewhere will fix some of these already widely commented problems.
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Post by mojacko on Feb 2, 2015 19:49:10 GMT -5
I cant imagine how & why Hasbro approved this horrific Devastator. IMO its a pure waste & down the sales bin if it hit local retailers.
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Post by demonseed on Feb 2, 2015 20:13:54 GMT -5
What a shame. Those hands/forearms are awful.
I'm shocked. It's only one pic but dang he looks sh*tty. After seeing (and ordering) Superion I was excited for CW Dev.
I'm sure we'll see 3rd party hands and feet, I've already seen for Superion, but add on parts shouldnt be mandatory to fix the figure.
Back to looking at the KO Dev
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Post by malakas on Feb 3, 2015 1:27:05 GMT -5
I question the choice of making it a Titan-sized toy.
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Post by reVolVer on Feb 3, 2015 4:41:23 GMT -5
The elusive Combiner Wars Titan Class (?) Devastator  Edit: c/o 4chan.org ugh that pose,, definitely not worthy display for any toy event. its quite hilarious seeing fanboys on making different excuses for this abomination... and bashing those who doesnt agree.. well if u dont make hasbro in any way possible to feel what they deserve and keep kissing thier a***.. they will always make unimaginable figures like this. |
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Post by coldiron on Feb 3, 2015 10:05:25 GMT -5
It seems like the cab is no longer the foot. I was confused about the design till I saw this. I still think it is a bad choice, but it is not the cab. He is now this kind of mixer and the thing at the back is the foot.  |
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Post by reVolVer on Feb 3, 2015 10:58:12 GMT -5
could be.... but they can always split that part during transformation and make it wider.
All they have to do is... be more creative. lol
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 14:35:23 GMT -5
It is kind of hard for me to pass judgement based on one picture.
Hopefully, there will be more pictures available from this year's upcoming NYTF.
But one thing is for sure, regardless how bad this Devastator is, it will be sold out. And if third party groups like Microblaze Creations come out with new limbs or add-ons for it, it will be highly desirable.
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Post by Lejam on Feb 4, 2015 8:41:03 GMT -5
To be honest, this is a total waste... Maketoys Giant is way better. Tfc version us impressive but design need more expression and characterization. My advice is to wait a bit and save money for a MP Devastator or UT/WB/MMC possible versions. I know it´s pure fiction but it´s better dreaming than wasting money in this. But these waves of Hasbro combiners is puting a bit 3rd party companies in the shadow (mass market). Glad some of them didn't jump recently in these characters. What we need ? Another Superion ? Menasor ? -> FP gives a good combiner but too much focus on "perfect transformation", instead of aesthetic... -> it's exoframed legs (trailer) with cars parked on them... (sorry no offense, the work accomplished is great). For sure, some 3rd Party will improve this Devy.  |
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Post by Yumcha on Feb 4, 2015 14:39:27 GMT -5
To be honest, this is a total waste... Maketoys Giant is way better. Tfc version us impressive but design need more expression and characterization. My advice is to wait a bit and save money for a MP Devastator or UT/WB/MMC possible versions. I know it´s pure fiction but it´s better dreaming than wasting money in this. But these waves of Hasbro combiners is puting a bit 3rd party companies in the shadow (mass market). Glad some of them didn't jump recently in these characters. What we need ? Another Superion ? Menasor ? -> FP gives a good combiner but too much focus on "perfect transformation", instead of aesthetic... -> it's exoframed legs (trailer) with cars parked on them... (sorry no offense, the work accomplished is great). For sure, some 3rd Party will improve this Devy. Apples and oranges toys, Herr Admin. I mean, here you have a toy from Hasbro that's meant for mass consumption at a price point that's more "affordable" to the average consumer...not the hard-core nutbars like us who will cheerfully throw $300+ into an "action figure". Furthermore, per Hasbro-Takara here, they are making a toy that's probably more durable and can handle the rigors of a kid playing with it regularly and not like us who MAY transform the toy once a week at most but otherwise, admire it in a glass shelf. So, if that's their MO, you need to strike a balance in their engineering to make a "playable" and relatively durable plaything as a prerequisite...therefore, it's possible the look will suffer. Just my two cents. Not worth alot these days if you factor the CAD's horrid conversion rate.  |
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Post by mojacko on Feb 4, 2015 16:54:39 GMT -5
To be honest, this is a total waste... Maketoys Giant is way better. Tfc version us impressive but design need more expression and characterization. My advice is to wait a bit and save money for a MP Devastator or UT/WB/MMC possible versions. I know it´s pure fiction but it´s better dreaming than wasting money in this. But these waves of Hasbro combiners is puting a bit 3rd party companies in the shadow (mass market). Glad some of them didn't jump recently in these characters. What we need ? Another Superion ? Menasor ? -> FP gives a good combiner but too much focus on "perfect transformation", instead of aesthetic... -> it's exoframed legs (trailer) with cars parked on them... (sorry no offense, the work accomplished is great). For sure, some 3rd Party will improve this Devy. Apples and oranges toys, Herr Admin. I mean, here you have a toy from Hasbro that's meant for mass consumption at a price point that's more "affordable" to the average consumer...not the hard-core nutbars like us who will cheerfully throw $300+ into an "action figure". Furthermore, per Hasbro-Takara here, they are making a toy that's probably more durable and can handle the rigors of a kid playing with it regularly and not like us who MAY transform the toy once a week at most but otherwise, admire it in a glass shelf. So, if that's their MO, you need to strike a balance in their engineering to make a "playable" and relatively durable plaything as a prerequisite...therefore, it's possible the look will suffer. Just my two cents. Not worth alot these days if you factor the CAD's horrid conversion rate. If price is really the factor, then how come they come up with a cheap but nice design of Jetfire? ALthough Jetfire is not a combiner but my point is, If your already in the design stage of creating a TF toy, why not make a really Nice one and Not serving fans a half baked Titan Devastator! Common HAsbro you can do better than this! |
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Post by droutmaster on Feb 4, 2015 19:07:49 GMT -5
Devastator looks nice, not perfect by all means but still looks impressive. True Hasbro could have done better devastator but it would have been in the range of $400 + which makes this figure only accessible for the hardcore collectible and not for the casual which is all ages. still getting this guy when i get the chance for it. I do agree that the head is small and they could size it up as well the overall figure is to big to go with the previews combiners like Superion, Menasor and Ultra Prime. I was hoping for a more deluxe classes so when they combine they would look great together. I really hate it when companies does this kind of things. Sorry to see Mixmaster receiving another vehicle form to be the leg, i presume they could not get the license of the type of vehicle that was he base on and had to use another. so either that or cane Devastator. I actually really don't see how they could make the forearms bigger without sacrificing the function been integrated in the individual bots. Sure TFC did it with Hercule using the treads of the vehicles, but it also cause a backlash by the fandom because they wanted Hercule to look like the G1 which is having the treads as part of the torso. This in turn would cause TFC to release a separate part set (rage of Hercule) which include a face and forearms to do the job, but now it made it into a parts-formers. Same deal with Green Giant, the forearms are separate parts and not integrated with the respective figures which makes him parts forming. This devastator is trying to stay as G1 as possible which means all parts must remain integrated inside the vehicles and each individual robot mode to simulate the cartoon. one thing i would change would be the hands, instead of black it should be purple. The real issue here is that Hasbro did not bother to pose properly the figure in more of a dynamic stance as well having it only in secrecy for private events, i really wish they would stop with that bullsh*t and interact more with the fandom as well presented the figure more properly. ]If price is really the factor, then how come they come up with a cheap but nice design of Jetfire? ALthough Jetfire is not a combiner but my point is, If your already in the design stage of creating a TF toy, why not make a really Nice one and Not serving fans a half baked Titan Devastator! Common HAsbro you can do better than this! Because a transformer that has to double change (vehicle to robot) is not hard to do which makes it more cleaner, but a Transformers that is a triple changer(whether the third form been for a limb or torso or vehicle) is a much more difficult task that the figure needs to perform. Specially if said figure has to have it all integrated which means no parts-forming for arms or legs is allow, has to retain the G1 look as much closer as possible and as well it has to be for mass release in a cheaper price point. Its extremely difficult the task you are asking for Hasbro to do for a low budget limit for a figure that is gonna be mass produce, if what you want is high end figure like MP level that Hasbro should make with no compromises then might as well Hasbro leave the mass market and only do hardcore collectors that will pay no less that $500. I mean, if 3rd parties sell unofficial transformers figure for more than $400 +, then an official one with MP level and in this size should sell like $600+ for hardcore collectors. |
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Post by Lejam on Feb 4, 2015 19:50:55 GMT -5
Of course Hasbro toys are meant to be mean with... Cheap and can last after years : kids are not gentle. But for those who want to spent in a unique piece rather than having an army of Devy, I recomand to get a beautifull piece... C'MON ! LOOK AT THE CAB OF MIXMASTER !!!  Also, add the price of the fictionnal 3rd party add on kit, you will not far from expensive. Best is to customize yourselves. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 22:21:29 GMT -5
Well, I have TFC's Hercules. And I am not impressed.
I also have MakeToys' Giant, the yellow version. I love it, but it is kind of small.
I am interested in Hasbro's version. And I am confident that more than one third party group will come up with upgrade kits that will fix all the issues that are being pointed out.
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Post by coldiron on Feb 5, 2015 0:47:39 GMT -5
On a positive note I think they did a great job on his right leg.
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Post by mojacko on Feb 5, 2015 9:06:47 GMT -5
Devastator looks nice, not perfect by all means but still looks impressive. True Hasbro could have done better devastator but it would have been in the range of $400 + which makes this figure only accessible for the hardcore collectible and not for the casual which is all ages. still getting this guy when i get the chance for it. I do agree that the head is small and they could size it up as well the overall figure is to big to go with the previews combiners like Superion, Menasor and Ultra Prime. I was hoping for a more deluxe classes so when they combine they would look great together. I really hate it when companies does this kind of things. Sorry to see Mixmaster receiving another vehicle form to be the leg, i presume they could not get the license of the type of vehicle that was he base on and had to use another. so either that or cane Devastator. I actually really don't see how they could make the forearms bigger without sacrificing the function been integrated in the individual bots. Sure TFC did it with Hercule using the treads of the vehicles, but it also cause a backlash by the fandom because they wanted Hercule to look like the G1 which is having the treads as part of the torso. This in turn would cause TFC to release a separate part set (rage of Hercule) which include a face and forearms to do the job, but now it made it into a parts-formers. Same deal with Green Giant, the forearms are separate parts and not integrated with the respective figures which makes him parts forming. This devastator is trying to stay as G1 as possible which means all parts must remain integrated inside the vehicles and each individual robot mode to simulate the cartoon. one thing i would change would be the hands, instead of black it should be purple. The real issue here is that Hasbro did not bother to pose properly the figure in more of a dynamic stance as well having it only in secrecy for private events, i really wish they would stop with that bullsh*t and interact more with the fandom as well presented the figure more properly. ]If price is really the factor, then how come they come up with a cheap but nice design of Jetfire? ALthough Jetfire is not a combiner but my point is, If your already in the design stage of creating a TF toy, why not make a really Nice one and Not serving fans a half baked Titan Devastator! Common HAsbro you can do better than this! Because a transformer that has to double change (vehicle to robot) is not hard to do which makes it more cleaner, but a Transformers that is a triple changer(whether the third form been for a limb or torso or vehicle) is a much more difficult task that the figure needs to perform. Specially if said figure has to have it all integrated which means no parts-forming for arms or legs is allow, has to retain the G1 look as much closer as possible and as well it has to be for mass release in a cheaper price point. Its extremely difficult the task you are asking for Hasbro to do for a low budget limit for a figure that is gonna be mass produce, if what you want is high end figure like MP level that Hasbro should make with no compromises then might as well Hasbro leave the mass market and only do hardcore collectors that will pay no less that $500. I mean, if 3rd parties sell unofficial transformers figure for more than $400 +, then an official one with MP level and in this size should sell like $600+ for hardcore collectors. Its not that we are asking Hasbro to re invent the wheel for us. Why would they? All they have to do is made some minor tweeks to make Devastator look nice & really cool. But did they deliver on this? For some reason I find this hard to believe. if we compare 3rd party masterpiece price to the Hasbro MP Price, Hasbro MP are still cheaper. MP Grimlock compare to 3rd party Swoop cost double the price. But anyway we can make arguments like this all day long. But the bottom line is, will this Titan Devastator sell well on the "mass market"? Are you willing to shed hundred dollars for this Titan Debvastator? Thou its to early to tell but Is it worth buying based from the single picture. At this early stage were having mixed emotions on this one. But one thing is for sure. I am Not impressed nor happy and I am NOT buying this figure! |
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Post by droutmaster on Feb 7, 2015 21:40:19 GMT -5
Its not that we are asking Hasbro to re invent the wheel for us. Why would they? All they have to do is made some minor tweeks to make Devastator look nice & really cool. But did they deliver on this? For some reason I find this hard to believe. if we compare 3rd party masterpiece price to the Hasbro MP Price, Hasbro MP are still cheaper. MP Grimlock compare to 3rd party Swoop cost double the price. But anyway we can make arguments like this all day long. But the bottom line is, will this Titan Devastator sell well on the "mass market"? Are you willing to shed hundred dollars for this Titan Debvastator? Thou its to early to tell but Is it worth buying based from the single picture. At this early stage were having mixed emotions on this one. But one thing is for sure. I am Not impressed nor happy and I am NOT buying this figure! Don't worry about how he looks here, As always Hasbro never does a good job to present the figure correctly because private shows bullcrap and whatnot, so the awkward pose was to be expected. Some people that saw devastator prototype in asia said he had a bigger head than this and as well they where shown pics of him how he would look painted (hands where shown to be purple) the one that is show in the pic is not the final one according to those that went to the UK event, from what i understand the real one will be show in the Toy fair that is gonna be in the 14 this month(i think). So looking forward for the changes, but if there no changes im still cool with it because for me it looks pretty good for the job he needs to do for a mass production figure. Do remember that MP line is more for a market collectors target than anything else which means they have more budget invested for a low production of them in comparison to the more standard lines like deluxes and voyagers which those have to be made with minimal budget and easy to mass produce for the mass market not to mention to plan ahead for a possible future repaints or remolds (in this case a yellow devastator been the repaint). Granted also the MP line has his share of recolor like the seekers and the Prowl versions as well sideswipe and red alert, but what helps them a lot is the low production numbers for each of them to be made which makes them easy to afford all the engineering invested. But Devastator does not have that luxury compare to the MP line and 3rd parties since he has to be mass produce for the mass market which makes him less investment for easy production as well been easy to afford. The equivalent of 1 MP Grimlock going from $60 to $70 is from 2 to 3 voyagers in one set, Titan devastator is 6 robots which 5 of them are voyagers and one is said to be leader or a Titan line in less than $200. 3rd parties can over price any of the products far more than any official product because they are not aiming for mass production but for lower production, no licenses to pay, no safety regulations to follow but above else there target is not the casual customer or the standard collector but for the hardcore collector which they would pay any top dollar for any figure they make no matter the price. The major downside of them is that because complex transformations of there figures makes them quite fragile as well to long of a process to reach from point A to point B for something that should be straight forward which makes them for display only and never to be touch again. This Titan Devastator is meant to be play and display as you wish but more to be play with than anything else so its job is to entertain kids and adults alike or more to say casual customer and the standard collector, hardcore ones might not or never will buy any product no matter if its official or how good its made if its not to there standards then no dice. People said that Titan Metroplex would fail selling and it would kill the Titan line just like Fortress Maximus did the firs time years ago, Metroplex succeeded and now Titan Devastator is there to prove it, so Im pretty sure he will sell just fine since is Devastator after all. For the price from what i understand in canada is gonna cost $179.99 where for the US is still to be determent(possibly we will know on the toy fair). But yes i will buy it the chance i get if the price is right(not paying more than $200), granted i would have much prefer it was in the size of CW Superion and CW Menasor just so they could all go well together. Im not a person to judge for one photo so im really looking forward for more on this beast in the toyfair event when people start putting up more info and pics of it. Im really sorry that this figure is not meeting your level of standard that you wish to be which already made you decide not to purchase it. But again you are asking Hasbro to invest more which would compromise the figure been accessible for the mass market as been there target audience. |
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Post by Yumcha on Feb 13, 2015 11:14:16 GMT -5
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Post by Yumcha on Feb 13, 2015 13:11:31 GMT -5
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