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Post by S_Gokin on Sept 30, 2014 9:49:00 GMT -5
Tell him tmz lol, even if he lost the ability to transform that’s make him more unique because he got stock in the cool form of getter robo, the poll is missing a legit getter and the most brutal one of them all  |
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Sept 30, 2014 10:47:29 GMT -5
I cannot include every possible Getter ever existed in the poll, I know this poll is incomplete, and I can't keep adding entries to infinity  I decided that the poll should be comprised of the Getters who got a decent amount of screen time, since they're, probably, the better known ones. That also gives me an indication of which show was watched the most by Getter fans. So robots like Dinosaur Getter, Getter Ark, Getter Emperor, they're all missing. I can't make everyone happy, no one can  And why isn't Black Getter in the poll then?? He was featured in the Armageddon OVAs, he was on screen!!! Yeah, but Black Getter is just a Getter Robo variation, in my opinion. A modification. I know it's cool, but what might be cooler to some might be lamer to others, S_Gokin. You see the pros of Black Getter, but I also see the cons. Like, do you remember how Black Getter got destroyed? Ryoma was attacking Shin Dragon with its Getter beam, but Shin Dragon managed to absorb all of the beam's energy, and drained the remaining one from Black Getter. It got "extinguished", its vital energy devoured. Who knows, maybe if he had still the ability to open get, he could have saved himself. Even though, we all know Black Getter had to die in that moment, so that Ryoma could pilot Shin Getter instead  As I said, a modification. If Black Getter was considered a whole new robot, then this is not Mazinger Z: |
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Sept 30, 2014 12:40:19 GMT -5
I cannot include every possible Getter ever existed in the poll, I know this poll is incomplete, and I can't keep adding entries to infinity I decided that the poll should be comprised of the Getters who got a decent amount of screen time, since they're, probably, the better known ones. That also gives me an indication of which show was watched the most by Getter fans. So robots like Dinosaur Getter, Getter Ark, Getter Emperor, they're all missing. I can't make everyone happy, no one can And why isn't Black Getter in the poll then?? He was featured in the Armageddon OVAs, he was on screen!!! Yeah, but Black Getter is just a Getter Robo variation, in my opinion. A modification. I know it's cool, but what might be cooler to some might be lamer to others, S_Gokin. You see the pros of Black Getter, but I also see the cons. Like, do you remember how Black Getter got destroyed? Ryoma was attacking Shin Dragon with its Getter beam, but Shin Dragon managed to absorb all of the beam's energy, and drained the remaining one from Black Getter. It got "extinguished", its vital energy devoured. Who knows, maybe if he had still the ability to open get, he could have saved himself. Even though, we all know Black Getter had to die in that moment, so that Ryoma could pilot Shin Getter instead As I said, a modification. If Black Getter was considered a whole new robot, then this is not Mazinger Z: Ehhh... wrong picture. That IS Mazinger Z. The one that is NOT Mazinger Z (because it is a Transforming Robot) is Shin Mazinger.   I know it is your poll, and you have your reasons to list the Getters you feel like. However, you can't get disappointed when other members claim that such a well known and highly favorite Getter, like the Black Getter, is not up for choosing. Just my thoughts... }D |
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Sept 30, 2014 14:35:39 GMT -5
Ehhh... wrong picture. That IS Mazinger Z. The one that is NOT Mazinger Z (because it is a Transforming Robot) is Shin Mazinger. I know it is your poll, and you have your reasons to list the Getters you feel like. However, you can't get disappointed when other members claim that such a well known and highly favorite Getter, like the Black Getter, is not up for choosing. Just my thoughts... }D Mhm you misunderstood TMZ: that is the appropriate picture  you probably remember that episode when Mazinger loses his right arm during a fight, and then they quickly try to fix it back at the photon lab, and Dr. Yumi says that the newly mounted fist is made specifically to deliver a super-strong rocket punch. Or at least, that's what the subtitles said well, the image I posted is the Mazinger Z from that episode: just because, after being damaged, it got repaired and didn't look exactly like before, doesn't mean it's not Mazinger Z anymore, right? The same goes for Black Getter: Ryoma repaired the damaged Getter 1 in the lunar base, and had to add a pair of extra things, since he didn't have all the replacement pieces needed. So at the end, Getter Robo didn't look exactly like before. But it still was Getter Robo That's the way I see it, anyway, other people may differ. And it is absolutely normal that some people don't see their favorite Getter in the poll, I don't get mad or disappointed, it' a nice conversation starter to be honest. |
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Post by S_Gokin on Sept 30, 2014 14:49:06 GMT -5
Ehhh... wrong picture. That IS Mazinger Z. The one that is NOT Mazinger Z (because it is a Transforming Robot) is Shin Mazinger. I know it is your poll, and you have your reasons to list the Getters you feel like. However, you can't get disappointed when other members claim that such a well known and highly favorite Getter, like the Black Getter, is not up for choosing. Just my thoughts... }D Mhm you misunderstood TMZ: that is the appropriate picture you probably remember that episode when Mazinger loses his right arm during a fight, and then they quickly try to fix it back at the photon lab, and Dr. Yumi says that the newly mounted fist is made specifically to deliver a super-strong rocket punch. Or at least, that's what the subtitles said well, the image I posted is the Mazinger Z from that episode: just because, after being damaged, it got repaired and didn't look exactly like before, doesn't mean it's not Mazinger Z anymore, right? The same goes for Black Getter: Ryoma repaired the damaged Getter 1 in the lunar base, and had to add a pair of extra things, since he didn't have all the replacement pieces needed. So at the end, Getter Robo didn't look exactly like before. But it still was Getter Robo That's the way I see it, anyway, other people may differ. And it is absolutely normal that some people don't see their favorite Getter in the poll, I don't get mad or disappointed, it' a nice conversation starter to be honest. TMZ i think our minds are the same lol i was going to post shin mazinger z to prove the point but you did it first  MF i understand you my friend and agree with you, i remember the episode you talked about but they just change 1 forearm and they put the old one when they have some time, but with Getter black so many changes colors weapons not been able to open get its just without him the poll is missing 1 of the most important Getters but its your show man im just saying my opinion |
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Sept 30, 2014 15:07:56 GMT -5
Ehhh... wrong picture. That IS Mazinger Z. The one that is NOT Mazinger Z (because it is a Transforming Robot) is Shin Mazinger. I know it is your poll, and you have your reasons to list the Getters you feel like. However, you can't get disappointed when other members claim that such a well known and highly favorite Getter, like the Black Getter, is not up for choosing. Just my thoughts... }D Mhm you misunderstood TMZ: that is the appropriate picture you probably remember that episode when Mazinger loses his right arm during a fight, and then they quickly try to fix it back at the photon lab, and Dr. Yumi says that the newly mounted fist is made specifically to deliver a super-strong rocket punch. Or at least, that's what the subtitles said well, the image I posted is the Mazinger Z from that episode: just because, after being damaged, it got repaired and didn't look exactly like before, doesn't mean it's not Mazinger Z anymore, right? The same goes for Black Getter: Ryoma repaired the damaged Getter 1 in the lunar base, and had to add a pair of extra things, since he didn't have all the replacement pieces needed. So at the end, Getter Robo didn't look exactly like before. But it still was Getter Robo That's the way I see it, anyway, other people may differ. And it is absolutely normal that some people don't see their favorite Getter in the poll, I don't get mad or disappointed, it' a nice conversation starter to be honest. LOL... MF, you need to get the Mazinger Z series with better subs! Nah, that was not a repaired Rocket Punch for Mazinger Z. It was a reinforced Rocket Punch, specially made to penetrate the armor of the particular enemy (three headed turtle) on that episode. Its name is Kyoka-kata Rocket Punch. After that episode, the entire Mazinger Z was reinforced, so the Kyoka-kata Rocket punch was never used again. Oh, and it wasn't as big as they made it for the SRC Mazinger. As far as the Black Getter, like I said, a lot of people consider it a very important Getter, and they will not take lightly its absence from the poll. }D |
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Sept 30, 2014 15:43:36 GMT -5
That's something quite amazing honestly, that some Getter fans like the Black Getter above all the others: it says more about the pilot than the robot See, all in all, Black Getter is less capable and way less versatile than a regular Getter Robo, but a bit more powerful than a stock Getter 1. I do believe that the cause of its inhability to open get is due to the damage it received, before crashing on the Moon. Some important circuitry must have been permanently damaged in that moment, and Ryoma was only able to repair the "visible" things: arms, legs, head. In the end, Black Getter had access to all the weapons and attacks Getter 1 had, plus the knucles. That's why I said that, overall, it's a bit better than a Getter 1, specially in melee fights. But I lost count of all the times that Shin Getter, and also Getter Robo, had to open get to escape hazardous situations. Every time Shin Getter got trapped by those pesky invaders, it just needed to open get to get rid of them (since they were made of jelly  ). It happened with more frequency in the Armageddon OVAs than in the original anime  well Black Getter never really had any of these problems, since every time he got surrounded, he just sliced and getter-beamed its way through stuff. But not being able to access the other 2 modes... objectively, Black Getter would lose 2 out of 3 times in a fight with a normal Getter Robo (if both robots were piloted by equally skilled pilots): on the ground, and even in an air fight, Black Getter and Getter 1 would be almost on the same level, but Black Getter would have a close combat advantage, so I give the point to him. Underwater? Getter Robo would quickly change to Getter 3, grab the Black one and DAISETSUDAN OROSHI the hell out of him, and then quickly finish him off with a pair of Getter Missiles. I guess, if Getter 3 were to attack using only the missiles, Black Getter might have a slim chance to dodge them, but it couldn't possibly avoid the grip of those strong arms and last but not least, underground combat. Getter 2 would have the upper hand here 100% of the times, Black Getter wouldn't even be able to move. Wow this is becoming a long post... anyway, as I said in line #1: the coolness of Black Getter comes mostly from its pilot: Nagare Ryoma. The wrath, the ruthlessness, the sheer violence, it all went down to the man behind the mouthplate. I guess fighting dinosaurs, demons, space invaders and then being sent to a horrible prison for 1 year as a reward doesn't make you the kindest person in the world, does it but as it happens with all super robots, pilot and mecha are two of the same, so if Black Getter is just good, but Ryoma is fearfully awesome, the two together make Black Getter a very cool robot, no question about it! Just one more thing: I think the main reason people see Black Getter as a completely separate robot, apart from the choice of giving it the eyes of a psycho, is because of the colour of course: Black. It really stands out amongst the other Getters. and all because Ryoma was careless when he came back to Earth, hehe:  So he burned up the paintjob, oh well. Really, try (as an experiment) to picture Black Getter in its original colours, it will look a lot more like its brother. |
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Post by GETTERBLAKK on Sept 30, 2014 22:48:29 GMT -5
ryoma was not careless coming back to earth during reentry. getter was not built for space combat so ryoma had to modify to get back to earth and as when all things make reentry back to earth they heat up at 2000f + or more so of course you're gonna loose some paint. also you should black getter to the poll because no one is really voting because of it, also you have just as many toy versions of black getter as any other version of getter. and as true potential goes getter robo defeated getter dragon. the pilots of getter robo skills is what pulled them through. shin getter in Armageddon piloted by go kay and the mechanic couldn't pilot shin properly and almost got themselves killed if it wasn't for GETTER BLACK SAVING THE DAY.THEN YOU HAVE MUSASHI HE SINGLE HANDILY KICKED DINOSAUR EMPIRE ASS BY HIMSELF IN GETTER ROBO CHANGING THROUGH ALL FORMS IN THE MANGA , ORIGINAL ANIME SERIES AND IN SHIN VS NEO GETTER. GETTER BLACK IS ICONIC IN THE DAI KESSEN VIDEO GAME HE HAS A GETTER 2 DRILL ARM IN THE SRW VIDEO GAMES GETTER BLACK IS FAN FAVORITE AND A BAD ASS TO BOOT. ALSO IN ARMAGEDDON IF SHIN GETTER HAD THE BALLS TO LAND ON SHIN DRAGON AND HIT HIM WITH A POINT BLANK GETTER BEAM HE WOULD HAVE BEEN DRAINED TOO. ALL DRAGON MODEL ARE POWER GETTER RAY BATTERIES ALWAYS ABSORBING GETTER RAYS. IN THE MANGA GETTER DRAGON WAS USED AS AN AMP TO POWER UP SHIN GETTER. ALSO REMEMBER HOW THEY ABSORBED ALL THE GETTER RAYS OUT OF THE ATMOSPHERE IN ARMAGEDDON.
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Oct 1, 2014 5:43:42 GMT -5
Woah, calm down please, caps lock was unnecessary. And use some more punctuation next time Why are we talking about Musashi anyway? And I already stated that I'm not considering the video games as a canonic source of information. Really? Nobody's voting because Black Getter is not in the poll? I'd not like to restart the poll one more time, resetting the votes which are already there... but we can't keep discussing about this one topic for eternity. You choose, we can either talk about something else, or, if another forum member complains about it, I'll just add it to the poll. Eh... |
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Oct 1, 2014 8:42:34 GMT -5
That may as well be the case, bro. Like I said, there are tons of Black Getter fans out there that aren't gonna be happy when their favorite Getter is left out of the Getter Canon poll... }D |
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Post by S_Gokin on Oct 1, 2014 11:08:41 GMT -5
Woah, calm down please, caps lock was unnecessary. And use some more punctuation next time Why are we talking about Musashi anyway? And I already stated that I'm not considering the video games as a canonic source of information. Really? Nobody's voting because Black Getter is not in the poll? I'd not like to restart the poll one more time, resetting the votes which are already there... but we can't keep discussing about this one topic for eternity. You choose, we can either talk about something else, or, if another forum member complains about it, I'll just add it to the poll. Eh... Really MF how many complains you want to get . since you started i told you you MUST add the black Getter because without him this isn't a Getter canon and its not completed, i think you should do another poll about who want to add the black Getter to the original poll i know its not cool to restart the poll for the 3rd time but its missing one of the most favorite Getters and better now then later only 3 people voted im sure they will understand and vote again BTW the reason i started watching Getters is Getter black |
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Oct 1, 2014 12:26:18 GMT -5
Done, added. I still think Black Getter is not a "true" Getter, but hey, that's just my opinion, right?
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What? Did anyone say anything? No? Ok.
Anyway, the people who already voted, I'm sorry to tell you that you'll have to revote. And if you already voted during the poll #1 period, you'll have to revote again. Sorry.
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Post by S_Gokin on Oct 1, 2014 12:41:06 GMT -5
Just voted for the TRUE & the most brutal Getter robo of all the Getters  |
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Oct 1, 2014 14:18:19 GMT -5
Alright, it seems the "Black Sheep" followers are pleased I do still feel bad for people who say that Black Getter is the TRUE Getter Robo, but I can't blame them. Growing up and coming to know this universe through Getter Robo Armageddon can cause this kind of things  So, now it would make sense to start talking about something else. C'mon, I'll let you choose the topic |
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Post by TheMazingerZ on Oct 1, 2014 15:10:54 GMT -5
What I would definitely love to see, is a summary of the Getter Robo storyline. Starting from the first Getter to the latest one. I can't read Japanese, and most of the info besides the animes, is in Japanese books and manga. If someone here that is knowledgeable in the entire Getter Saga writes up a cool detailed summary for those of us that will never get it otherwise, it would be the most awesome thing ever posted! }D |
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Oct 1, 2014 16:02:12 GMT -5
Mhm, weren't the mangas published in the US? They were here, in Italy, a few years back. Right now I'm waiting for them to be re-published by another house, which is in fact reprinting old Go Nagai works. Devilman, Mazinger Z, Great Mazinger, Grendizer (for the Maz trilogy, both Nagai and Ota versions), Z Mazinger and Shin Mazinger Zero have already hit the shelves, just a few months ago. Now I'm waiting for them to announce the Getter mangas, it would be a crime for them not to republish those ones Of course I could try to read them sooner, by "other" means, and then buying them when the time comes. Just to speed up things. It all depends on when they'll reprint those books. |
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Post by S_Gokin on Oct 1, 2014 17:44:12 GMT -5
Alright, it seems the "Black Sheep" followers are pleased I do still feel bad for people who say that Black Getter is the TRUE Getter Robo, but I can't blame them. Growing up and coming to know this universe through Getter Robo Armageddon can cause this kind of things So, now it would make sense to start talking about something else. C'mon, I'll let you choose the topic Black sheep? Why you hate him so much? lol That’s the black Getter the black lone wolf not a sheep, He’s a Getter robo either you like it or not even if he can’t open get he did his job flawlessly & saved the mighty shin Getter robo many time so he earned his place in Getters world as a TRUE getter robo FYI I watched the first two episodes for both Getter Robo & Getter robo G and i I watched the episode about the Shine Spark attack I just didn’t find time to complete the two shows one after another and at that time Fewture released the ex gokin black getter I was amazed of his look so I watched Armageddon immediately because of him. I know about Go Nagais robots don’t worry |
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Oct 1, 2014 18:00:08 GMT -5
Ah don't get me wrong, I don't hate Black Getter, it just seems a bit overestimated to me Black Sheep was not intended to be offensive, it's just like, in a herd of sheep, the black one stands out right? Well then, in between so many red, white and yellow Getters, the black one stands out |
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Post by S_Gokin on Oct 1, 2014 18:11:51 GMT -5
thats racist man we should report you lol i keed i keed i understand your point & its just because he was more brutal in the 3 or 4 episodes that he was on more than all the Getters Combined thats why most of the fans like him  |
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Post by S_Gokin on Oct 7, 2014 13:05:13 GMT -5
i cant believe all that discussion & the trying to make MF put black Getter back into the poll & just 4 people have voted LOL |
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