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Post by S_Gokin on Nov 17, 2014 11:17:19 GMT -5
See Baron? Your Getter collection pretty much sums up the problem in the toy industry today, when it comes to making Getter figures: they just make Getter 1, or Dragon, and that's it, they think they're done with that. "Why would you want the other ones? They're not as popular as the one we made" or something like that. It's always Getter 1, or black Getter, or Shin Getter 1... rarely you see the others being made. Is it that hard to understand that Getter Robo is 3 robots in 1? And that, if you make one, you HAVE TO make the other 2 as well? Geez... you are absolutely right i noticed the lack of Getter 2 and 3 even in the price they are not like Getter 1, its more like a business thing offer and demand but Fewture is doing all the 3 every time for crazy amount of money but they are doing it lol however in my opinion i think the Fewture EX gokin Getter robo G Lyger is by far the BEST design ever in all the all Getters figurs so far, one day i will get all the set and i will take a day off just to stare at Lyger
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Nov 17, 2014 12:01:18 GMT -5
Hehe, I remember when we were arguing about Black Getter. Good times.
If its an offer and demand thing, I wonder why no one seems to be jumping onto the bandwagon and give us some freaking Getter 2's and 3's. A lot of people wants them, a lot of people. Just don't make many, I don't care if you overprice them (you sick ba$t*rd) I just want the damn figure. Yeah I'll be getting some SoCs and have the whole Getter trio and Getter G trio, cool. I'll also get the SRC Getter 1 so I can at least play and mock around with it, leaving the others exposed. But after that? Oh I'd so like a Shin Getter trio...
OOPS too bad there isn't one (a decent one, at least) because almost nobody made a Shin Getter 2 and noone made a Shin Getter 3. I've just seen a lil' statue of it, non-poseable. Oh but don't worry fella, there's plenty of Shin Getter 1's around, so many that it makes you not want to buy any of them.
Should I buy the ES Gokin Getter trio? The Revoltech New Getter trio? Is it too much to ask for a gokin rendition of them? The fate is against me... I remember when I saw that, before the Marmit "godaikin" line was discontinued, they managed to make a prototype of Getter 3 in all its glory. So we got a big, metal-filled classic-looking Getter 1. And Getter 2. But not Getter 3. I wanted to sit in a corner ad cry that day...
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Post by S_Gokin on Nov 17, 2014 12:12:16 GMT -5
Hehe, I remember when we were arguing about Black Getter. Good times. If its an offer and demand thing, I wonder why no one seems to be jumping onto the bandwagon and give us some freaking Getter 2's and 3's. A lot of people wants them, a lot of people. Just don't make many, I don't care if you overprice them (you sick ba$t*rd) I just want the damn figure. Yeah I'll be getting some SoCs and have the whole Getter trio and Getter G trio, cool. I'll also get the SRC Getter 1 so I can at least play and mock around with it, leaving the others exposed. But after that? Oh I'd so like a Shin Getter trio... OOPS too bad there isn't one (a decent one, at least) because almost nobody made a Shin Getter 2 and noone made a Shin Getter 3. I've just seen a lil' statue of it, non-poseable. Oh but don't worry fella, there's plenty of Shin Getter 1's around, so many that it makes you not want to buy any of them. Should I buy the ES Gokin Getter trio? The Revoltech New Getter trio? Is it too much to ask for a gokin rendition of them? The fate is against me... I remember when I saw that, before the Marmit "godaikin" line was discontinued, they managed to make a prototype of Getter 3 in all its glory. So we got a big, metal-filled classic-looking Getter 1. And Getter 2. But not Getter 3. I wanted to sit in a corner ad cry that day... if im not mistaken Fewture announced they will do shin getter 2 and 3 along with Grendizer announcement i know they will take along time but something better than nothing
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Nov 17, 2014 12:20:19 GMT -5
if im not mistaken Fewture announced they will do shin getter 2 and 3 along with Grendizer announcement i know they will take along time but something better than nothing ... ... I think I'm having a heart attack. Be right back.
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Nov 17, 2014 12:38:11 GMT -5
Cmon mate. EX Gokin, we're talking Fewture here, not HLPro. The guys who made this: And this: Are going to work on this??? Oh boy... I wonder how they're gonna do those fat-ass super-sausagey legs honestly though, really hyped about it. I hope it comes out better than Gipsy Dang... I mean, Grendizer...
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Post by S_Gokin on Nov 17, 2014 12:46:18 GMT -5
Cmon mate. EX Gokin, we're talking Fewture here, not HLPro. The guys who made this: Are going to work on this??? honestly though, really hyped about it. I hope it comes out better than Gipsy Dang... I mean, Grendizer... </div> LOL, honestly i really love Fewture i know they have QCs and delays but when they release a figure its kick a$$ for ever, im with you i wanna see what they are going to do and i hope they dont over do the design like they did with Grendizer, but still i will get Grendizer lol even if its over designed, also i hope they take their time with it because with all this new releases my wallet got so thin
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Post by B- on Nov 17, 2014 13:31:26 GMT -5
There is also a Test Neo getter by Aoshima too in white,several banpresto modern vinyls of the original Getter test team,and also Marmit mini metal ones.. Also I come to this Getter world THROUGH the toys first,with exception of the 70s Getter series' and Armageddon,I have not read any mangas but its easy to know Getter Go and Neo Getter are TOTALLY different robots just from collecting the toys,Revoltech makes both,and Getter go doesnt come with the big fans which is odd to me. Anyhow I believe ALOT of Black Getter fans like him best purely on aesthetics,and the toy over his background as a Getter,I mean he looks like a Black Ninja for Godsake! I like the original Getter team and Getter G best,I actually voted for Getter G as my fave,as I like that anime best,just a better look than the first series to me,and therfor more fun to watch. MOST of MY GETTERS: See Baron? Your Getter collection pretty much sums up the problem in the toy industry today, when it comes to making Getter figures: they just make Getter 1, or Dragon, and that's it, they think they're done with that. "Why would you want the other ones? They're not as popular as the one we made" or something like that. It's always Getter 1, or black Getter, or Shin Getter 1... rarely you see the others being made. Is it that hard to understand that Getter Robo is 3 robots in 1? And that, if you make one, you HAVE TO make the other 2 as well? Geez... Oh i get it!!!it sucks... btw if you didnt notice Hidden in the back is Shin Getter 2,I have a very rare Shin Getter 3 vinyl on the way..probly SRC size.
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Nov 17, 2014 14:50:18 GMT -5
See Baron? Your Getter collection pretty much sums up the problem in the toy industry today, when it comes to making Getter figures: they just make Getter 1, or Dragon, and that's it, they think they're done with that. "Why would you want the other ones? They're not as popular as the one we made" or something like that. It's always Getter 1, or black Getter, or Shin Getter 1... rarely you see the others being made. Is it that hard to understand that Getter Robo is 3 robots in 1? And that, if you make one, you HAVE TO make the other 2 as well? Geez... Oh i get it!!!it sucks... btw if you didnt notice Hidden in the back is Shin Getter 2,I have a very rare Shin Getter 3 vinyl on the way..probly SRC size. Nah don't get it wrong mister, it's a lovely collection. But even then, with that Shin Getter 2 and your Shin Getter 3 coming, it will still be predominantly comprised of Getter 1's. That's for sure. My point, more or less, still stands.
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Post by B- on Nov 17, 2014 15:05:08 GMT -5
Oh i get it!!!it sucks... btw if you didnt notice Hidden in the back is Shin Getter 2,I have a very rare Shin Getter 3 vinyl on the way..probly SRC size. Nah don't get it wrong mister, it's a lovely collection. But even then, with that Shin Getter 2 and your Shin Getter 3 coming, it will still be predominantly comprised of Getter 1's. That's for sure. My point, more or less, still stands. hahah No I meant I UNDERSTAND,It sucks they dont make 2 and 3 Not that Im saying you thought my collection sucks haha...
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Nov 30, 2014 13:02:20 GMT -5
A few days ago, I was looking through the internet for a review of the newly released SRC Getter 1, when I stumbled across this page: www.collectiondx.com/toy_review/figure/kaijuzoo_custom_getter_1_glowAnd saw these pictures: I was left speechless. I was in awe, it truly impressed me like not many other toys ever did... a glow-in-the-dark Getter figure!!! Now, alright, I love the toy, but it got me thinking: has there ever been a mass-produced "glowy" Getter figure? (this is hand-made) Simulating the emission of Getter rays with this gimmick is both easy to achieve and sweet-looking, so I ask, has any company ever done this? And if not, why? This is ingenious!
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Post by S_Gokin on Nov 30, 2014 18:25:17 GMT -5
A few days ago, I was looking through the internet for a review of the newly released SRC Getter 1, when I stumbled across this page: www.collectiondx.com/toy_review/figure/kaijuzoo_custom_getter_1_glowAnd saw these pictures: I was left speechless. I was in awe, it truly impressed me like not many other toys ever did... a glow-in-the-dark Getter figure!!! Now, alright, I love the toy, but it got me thinking: has there ever been a mass-produced "glowy" Getter figure? (this is hand-made) Simulating the emission of Getter rays with this gimmick is both easy to achieve and sweet-looking, so I ask, has any company ever done this? And if not, why? This is ingenious! If im not mistaken Aoshima did glowing getters you can find some on EBay but it’s not that cheap
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Mar 3, 2015 11:08:08 GMT -5
About time, this thread needed a little update So, finally the second half of the Getter Robo manga has been reprinted. I got the first half in November 2014, but knowing that the last part would take some months to come out, I decided to wait before reading this little gem. And the wait is finally over I'm fetching a copy of Getter Robo - Volume 2 in the weekend. I'll start reading the first volume now though, as it is 500-ish pages thick and will take some time to finish, hehe. As I go through the story, I'll tell you what I think about it, similarly to what I did for the Mazinger Z, Great Mazinger and Grendizer mangas in the Mazinger Canon thread. I'll discuss drawings, story, characters, robot fights, differences between the 1974 anime and the manga... you know the drill. I'll do the same thing once the Getter Robo G, Go, Shin and Ark mangas come out. Though, that will take some more months, just be advised
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Mar 3, 2015 18:18:32 GMT -5
Mhm I might go a bit more in depth with this manga, than what I did for the Mazinger trilogy ones. Personal preference is playing a major role in this decision, I guess. But I just want to "explore" it more than I did with the other ones, for some reason Right. For now, I've just read the first chapter, it serves as a prologue/introduction to the story, but I was surprised at how little is shown or explained in this first few pages. Let's talk about the counter-example first: in any of the Mazinger trilogy mangas all the important characters are presented to us from the get-go, both heroes and villains, and the story unfolds and develops from there. This doesn't really happen in Getter Robo. Nope, in its first chapter the only important characters we see are Dr. Saotome and Emperor Gore. No one else. It creates a sort of... duality, let's say, there's a sharp contrast between the two figures: Saotome, defender of the Earth, and Gore, enemy of mankind. We don't even get to see any of the Getter pilots yet. Speaking of which. I'd like to spend a few words on how Getter Robo is presented to the reader, because it is rather different than what we got in the Mazinger mangas. Here we see Getter's genesis. Its birth. Let me explain: in the Mazinger Z manga, Koji discovers the robot only once he goes to see what happened to his grandfather, and Mazinger Z is there standing in the basement, finished and ready to go. In the Getter manga, Dr. Saotome and his team are trying to activate a proto-getter: it's late at night, all those scientists are pumping getter beams into the robot's body, while checking instruments to see how it will react to the influx of energy. First attempt at activating the robot fails, Saotome decides to take a coffee break but is quickly called back to the hangar: "it's alive." The prototype has finally started accepting and storing getter energy, it has awoken and started moving, amongst an astonished crowd. And guys, that scene reminded me a lot of the moment when Dr. Frankenstein managed to infuse life into his monster, like in that movie with Boris Karloff. There's a strong parallelism between the two. I like to think of it like this: while with Mazinger Z, Koji finding the robot and docking with the Pilder was a union between mind and body, the beginning of Getter Robo is more akin to a union between body and soul. That's the key word here: soul. No pilot was inside the machine, yet the proto-getter managed to move by itself. The machine became similar to a living being. I know this is a topic that will appear again in the pages of Getter Robo, but as an introduction I must say this was masterfully executed. AND very well drawn. If I had to briefly describe Ken Ishikawa's art style, I'd say that it is very detailed. It is not like Ota, who tried to emulate his teacher's raw and simple way of drawing but instead all that he could produce was a weak imitation, that rarely shined. No, nothing like that: Ishikawa was a maniac of detail, specially when it came to drawing mechanical parts and robots. In fact, it's quite hard to spot similarities with Nagai's works when reading Getter Robo, it mostly comes down to how some characters look and their facial expressions. Well that wraps it up for the first chapter I guess, I avoided talking about a pair of things and concentrated on what struck me the most: these were my first impressions after all up to this point, nothing really unusual happened. But I have a feeling that there will be something more doscussion-worthy in the next few chapters, hehe.
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Post by S_Gokin on Mar 4, 2015 5:34:26 GMT -5
looks really interesting man i dont know why they cut off some of the introduction in the show that will easily get me hocked to watch it, still didnt watch any getter yet except Armageddon (black getter) but hopfuly i will watch both Getter Robo and Getter Robo G i remember in one episode of Mazinger z he moved by his self too, but i dont remember which episode exactly. all i remember that he was trapped in his hanger and Koji was calling him so he pushed the rocks and rise up to pilder on , i was shocked by that because whole the show he didnt move a finger and now hes pushing rocks that was interesting tho Grendizer also can move by his self he attack any one who approach him who isnt Duke Fleed or Maria Fleed but not move completely like Mazinger z did
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Mar 4, 2015 7:00:19 GMT -5
looks really interesting man i dont know why they cut off some of the introduction in the show that will easily get me hocked to watch it, still didnt watch any getter yet except Armageddon (black getter) but hopfuly i will watch both Getter Robo and Getter Robo G i remember in one episode of Mazinger z he moved by his self too, but i dont remember which episode exactly. all i remember that he was trapped in his hanger and Koji was calling him so he pushed the rocks and rise up to pilder on , i was shocked by that because whole the show he didnt move a finger and now hes pushing rocks that was interesting tho Grendizer also can move by his self he attack any one who approach him who isnt Duke Fleed or Maria Fleed but not move completely like Mazinger z did I remember that episode from Mazinger Z. Yeah, the roof of the hangar collapsed and the robot was blocked, partially buried by the rocks and boulders. But there's no such thing in the manga, hehe. My explanation for that is that Koji kept trying to activate Mazinger's lift, until it somehow worked... And yes, Grendizer has a computer on-board that defends the spacer and the robot when no-one is piloting it. True. Well, I can see why the Getter manga is so much different from the show though. The same happened with Mazinger Z (more or less): in the manga drawn by Go Nagai, first time Koji rides on Mazinger he doesn't know how to control the robot, so he ends up destroying parts of the city (unwillingly) and probably killing some people too. And those events shocked Koji a lot. It's not like in the show, where Koji docks the pilder, doesn't know how to stop running, Sayaka comes to the rescue, teaches him a few basic things in the forest, then they both go to the Photon Lab and defeat Doublas and Garada, and nobody gets hurt. Yeah, the anime is toned down for children, just like the Devilman anime. And just like the Getter Robo anime.
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Mar 4, 2015 15:14:47 GMT -5
I've read chapters 2 and 3. In chapter 2 we see our first Getter pilot, Nagare Ryoma. In chapter 3 we are finally told what's happening, and we have our first robot fight. Let's start talking about the differences with the anime, they are numerous: the biggest one is probably Ryoma himself. Let me show you a comparison between the TV version and the manga version: So... quite a big difference, huh? Since there are still some people that haven't watched the old show, I'll try to.. avoid spoilers, let's say. I'll avoid talking about the important stuff as you can see in these images, anime Ryoma? Nice guy, plays in the school football team, talkative, has a good social life... manga Ryoma? Karateka, violent, very physically strong... I wouldn't say that they're opposites, but Ryoma has really been toned down in the anime. Also, it isn't that noticeable from this pic, but Nagare's look was clearly influenced by Koji Kabuto's one. The hair looks similar, the sideburns look almost identical... As you can imagine, next thing that happens is Saotome finds Ryoma and "recruits" him, takes him to the lab where he explains the situation to the boy (yes, in the manga Dr. Saotome knows about the enemy way before their first attack to the base), and all of a sudden BOOM dinosaurs are attacking the research center! Just as expected, hehe. Well, this first attack is quite different than what seen in the show: 1 pilot instead of 3, Gore doesn't show his face yet, something different happens to Saotome's son, and the enemy: apparently, in the manga, the Reptile Empire won't just use mechasaurus against the lab, but also proper dinosaurs! In this first attack, 2 pterodactyls are doing the job. There's also change in the hero robot: not only the Getter team isn't complete yet, not even Getter Robo is completely assembled yet. All Ryoma has for now is this: Yep, it's just the head and the top part of the body. It's interesting actually, this is basically Eagle Machine in it's "combined" form. It doesn't even have arms, nor the tomahawks, so Ryoma has to "get creative" in order to defeat the enemy beasts: he headbutts them. Well, that's all he could do after all, hehe. And it works, and the story ends happily. Sort of. Next chapter, we should see Jin Hayato join the team. I wonder how different he is from the anime...
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Post by tetsuryu on Mar 5, 2015 0:16:23 GMT -5
Yeah, the anime Ryoma is basically your average 70's super robot protagonist. Manga Ryoma is a complete psycho...at first.
Then he gets worse.
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Mar 5, 2015 10:54:22 GMT -5
Hehe, if you think Ryoma is a psycho, I'd like to know what you think of Hayato Yes, you guessed it, next up in the story is the second Getter pilot, Jin Hayato. The events that introduce him take up 3 chapters in the book. The first chapter covers the character introduction. Again, there are differences between the anime and the manga versions of the character: TV Hayato is "that guy that never talks to anybody", he's the guy who'd rather play his harmonica rather than join a conversation or play football with the others. You know, that guy, every school has one. Not a very social person. While he is physically agile and swift, in the anime he almost never uses violence against someone else. Unless, you know, it's for self-defense, or if he has no other choice. In the manga, Hayato is quite a different person though... basically, he's leader of a revolutionary group of students. But he's also batsh*t insane. Let me give you an example: while he was explaining to his companions a plan for killing the prime minister, 2 members of the group (which didn't want to be involved in such a violent and dangerous act) silently tryed to escape. But Hayato noticed them, jumped onto them, stopped them and then proceded to punish them for their treachery: he completely ripped the skin off the face of the first student, then he gouged the eyes, cut the ears and tore off the nose of the second guy. All with his bare hands. You read that right guys. Well, Dr. Saotome sends Ryoma to the school, to try to convince Hayato to join the Getter team. Obviously, the two end up fighting each other, hehe. That was to be expected. Here, I'll show you the start of the fight. Notice Hayato's face just before he attacks (it's kind of scary): The fight doesn't last long though, as some reptile-men and a mechasaurus attack the school and our protagonists try to escape from the place. Dr. Saotome arrives with 3 giant trucks, each one carrying a get-machine inside. Musashi hasn't joined the team yet, so Doc must pilot Bear Machine, while Ryoma gets in Eagle and Hayato in Jaguar. Finally we see a complete Getter Robo, Getter 1 to be specific, which quickly defeats the enemy robot. A small part of it manages to escape though, and Ryoma promptly chases the escaping pod. Getter 1 follows the enemy in the ocean, where our team meets emperor Gore for the first time. Gore explains the origins of his people and the reason why they needed to retreat to the depths of the Earth, then unleashes another mechasaurus, which is then destroyed by Getter Robo. Gore says to by-now-overheard line "you may have won this time, but I'll be back" and then disappears, while our heroes return home. Well, seems like Musashi is the only one missing now, hehe. We'll see how they did it in the manga.
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Post by S_Gokin on Mar 6, 2015 10:09:58 GMT -5
thats super awkward in the anime they look normal and clam but in the manga here they look like devilman with a little bit of the joker
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Post by Mechanical Flesh on Mar 6, 2015 13:16:40 GMT -5
thats super awkward in the anime they look normal and clam but in the manga here they look like devilman with a little bit of the joker They definitely are more violent and evil in the manga. But that's part of the charm of this on-paper version, it's so different from the anime that it's like a whole new and different thing to me I read Musashi's introduction chapter too. Up until now, it's the longest chapter in the manga. I'd say it was twice as long as a normal one, or even more. What "surprised" me about this chapter was its... normalness? It was pretty standard, that's what I mean. Both Ryoma and Hayato, after some time at the lab, seem to have calmed down, they don't look for a fight every 5 minutes, and it looks like they're becoming good friends. So, abnormal things are happening on Mount Daisetsu, Ryoma goes to investigate with the Eagle, but is shot down by the Reptile Empire's robot of the week. He crash-lands in the forest, where he meets Musashi Tomoe, a judo captain which has been traning for 6 months on said mountain (that's why his famous move is called Daisetsuzan Oroshi). Musashi helps Ryoma with the repairs, while Hayato and Saotome come to see what's happened with the other 2 getter machines. Once the team reunites and combine, they fight 4, and let me repeat, 4 mechasaurus! Not all at once, but I always welcome some good robot action, hehe. We see Getter 3 for the first time, which makes an awesome entrance, crushing an enemy mecha with his arms like it was a tin can. Also, Musashi isn't piloting it yet: during this chapter he just helps Ryoma controlling Getter 1, since Ryoma got injured in the crash-landing. EDIT: thought I'd post an image of Getter 3 while it "hugs" the mechasaurus, hehe: The last part of the chapter was, in my opninion, the most interesting one: Getter 2 fought the two remaining mechas, the first one in an open area: this enemy robot was very fast and agile, and could run so quick that he created little tornadoes in the process, that's why Getter 2 was needed. Getter 2 was able to outpace the enemy very easily, Hayato just had to drill a hole in the mechasaurus' head and the match was over. After that, he went underground and headed for the enemy subterranean base. Gore gave the order to launch subterranean missiles (awesome stuff) and here's when I was left speechless: Getter 2 destroyed the missiles with a pair of getter beams shot from its eyes. It surprised me because, in the TV show, Getter 2 has no such ability in the anime, all Getter 2 has is a claw and a drill, nothing more. The manga is definitely more interesting, the fights are also more dynamic. Now, some technical data mentioned in the manga, for all those people who want to start comparing the Getters with the Mazingers Getter 1, when using the Getter Wing, can exceed a speed of mach 2.5 (it reached mach 2.5 when Hayato was feeling sick, so in theory it could go even faster if all the pilots were in top-notch physical form). Mach 2.5 is pretty darn fast, it's almost 1 kilometre per second... But that's not much, compared to what Getter 2 can do. Hayato, in this last chapter, said that Getter 2 can move at a speed of mach 1 (340-ish metres per second, which is 1,225 km/h or 761 mph). But here's the good part: Getter 2 can both run at mach 1 speed, and move underground at mach 1 speed! ..that's insane
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